Re: [100attendees] Incorrect GeoIP for IETF network addresses

I can swing by NOC at 12, as soon as we have the lunch break.

Darshak

From: Chris Morrow <morrowc@google.com>
Date: Sunday, November 12, 2017 at 8:11 PM
To: Darshak Thakore <d.thakore@cablelabs.com>
Cc: "100attendees@ietf.org" <100attendees@ietf.org>
Subject: Re: [100attendees] Incorrect GeoIP for IETF network addresses

On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:00 PM Darshak Thakore <d.thakore@cablelabs.com<mailto:d.thakore@cablelabs.com>> wrote:
Thanks all for the feedback
So here are the results of my experiment

1. Google Chrome (logged into my google profile) - Just going to maps.google.com<http://maps.google.com> takes me to www.google.com.sg/maps<http://www.google.com.sg/maps> (which is expected) and shows me Singapore location and the “My Location” button shows that it acquired my location from my phone history (I have a pixel connected to the same account). However clicking on the button takes me to Hilton Prague
2. Google Chrome Incognito – Takes me to google.com.sg<http://google.com.sg> but clicking on “My Location” takes me to Hilton Prague
3. Firefox (logged into my google account) – Same behavior as Chrome – clicking “My Location” takes me to Prague
4. Firefox Incognito – Takes me to Prague
5. Safari – going to maps.google.com<http://maps.google.com> takes me to google.com.sg/maps<http://google.com.sg/maps> AND clicking on Location, it actually seems to work right

all of the above is odd, I'd be happy to see your tests (in the noc).

Jim, I’ll swing by the NOC in Indiana shortly to see if can collect some data points

Darshak

On 11/12/17, 7:44 PM, "Warren Kumari" <warren@kumari.net<mailto:warren@kumari.net>> wrote:

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    On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Darshak Thakore
    <d.thakore@cablelabs.com<mailto:d.thakore@cablelabs.com>> wrote:
    > Hi all,
    >
    >
    >
    > Is there a way to update the geoIP that the IETF IP addresses resolve to?
    > I’ve been seeing this behavior for the past few IETF’s where on google maps
    > (or on bing maps for that matter) in a browser, when I allow geo-location
    > (while connected to the IETF* networks) it always resolves to the previous
    > IETF venue.

    So, this is a long, and ongoing problem -- there are many geo-location
    databases, and getting all of them updated is hard.
    Erik Kline wrote a document which helps with this --
    https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-google-self-published-geofeeds-02
    and the IETF has published these...

    Also, many of the geo solutions also include stuff like the BSSID /
    MAC address of the radio you are connected to...

    >  So today when I click “Your location” button on google maps, it
    > shows that I’m at Hilton Prague and when I was in Prague, it showed me
    > Chicago (and so on)
    >

    So, thi time we thought we got this right for Google / Google Maps at
    least -- for me / other people who have tried this it seems to finally
    believe that we are were, er, we are...

    W

    >
    >
    > Just wanted to know if there’s something I/we can do to make it resolve to
    > the right venue
    >
    >
    >
    > Darshak
    >
    >
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