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From: Mike Bishop <mbishop@evequefou.be>
To: Jim Martin <jim@daedelus.com>, Darshak Thakore <d.thakore@cablelabs.com>
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Subject: Re: [100attendees] Incorrect GeoIP for IETF network addresses
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I’ve also pursued this with another providers which used the “sightings” of BSSIDs and cell signals and how they handle updates, when I moved a portable cell spot.  The issue turned out to be that it requires:

  *   GPS-enabled clients to report the new location in sufficient volume to cause the service to reconsider the location
  *   The service-side database to be updated
  *   Clients to age out their cache of the previous location of the BSSID/cell.

As a result, the expected time for clients to see the new location was 10-15 days, by which point we won’t be here any more.

From: 100attendees [mailto:100attendees-bounces@ietf.org] On Behalf Of Jim Martin
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 10:42 AM
To: Darshak Thakore <d.thakore@cablelabs.com>
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Subject: Re: [100attendees] Incorrect GeoIP for IETF network addresses

Darshak,
              This is a sadly complicated issue. There is no geolocation standard, so it’s a matter of trying to update the various organizations that provide geolocation services. We work closely with Google, and  try to work with SkyHook (the geolocation that Apple uses for BSSID based location) and MaxMind (a common location provider). Unfortunately, these are a bit hit or miss, as they’re not really setup for a non-trivial network to move around the world. We continue to work on it, and are always open to help, if anyone has suggestions.

              BTW: In terms of google maps, it “works for me” on my Mac using Safari right now. Swing by the NOC in Indiana if you get the chance so we can try to understand the differences in results. Thanks!

              -Jim



On Nov 13, 2017, at 10:34 AM, Darshak Thakore <d.thakore@cablelabs.com<mailto:d.thakore@cablelabs.com>> wrote:

Hi all,

Is there a way to update the geoIP that the IETF IP addresses resolve to? I’ve been seeing this behavior for the past few IETF’s where on google maps (or on bing maps for that matter) in a browser, when I allow geo-location (while connected to the IETF* networks) it always resolves to the previous IETF venue. So today when I click “Your location” button on google maps, it shows that I’m at Hilton Prague and when I was in Prague, it showed me Chicago (and so on)

Just wanted to know if there’s something I/we can do to make it resolve to the right venue

Darshak
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