IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [100attendees] [PROVENANCE INTERNET] Re: Long taxi itinerary from IETF hotel to airport

Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> Sat, 25 November 2017 19:21 UTC

Return-Path: <swmike@swm.pp.se>
X-Original-To: 100attendees@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: 100attendees@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3560D124D6C for <100attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:21:54 -0800 (PST)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -4.301
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-4.301 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, DKIM_VALID_AU=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED=-2.3, SPF_PASS=-0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (1024-bit key) header.d=swm.pp.se
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BL2RCKppjtSm for <100attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:21:52 -0800 (PST)
Received: from uplift.swm.pp.se (swm.pp.se [212.247.200.143]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2A5B91201FA for <100attendees@ietf.org>; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 11:21:52 -0800 (PST)
Received: by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix, from userid 501) id 345E6B2; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 20:21:48 +0100 (CET)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=swm.pp.se; s=mail; t=1511637708; bh=Q4enerFircSPE/Wcgt96sxBdKphsXPemGVTHF6m/WfM=; h=Date:From:To:cc:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:From; b=FbedWGpLTwkalD+EVP424hAvTa77+v4ixx9l2LaePzzqXIUgxAy+EQg+SUMcmJhRw tNPTuxAV8D0C4m1lJcWqbdKLJm1jmsDDboxSgp25AEzeiZTMbRp0IUOtxiAkNTnoFN JY8mRbvBb/yXlM5jw/KXjXmSoKX0rmJiiVNFK7cU=
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by uplift.swm.pp.se (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2F9FDB1; Sat, 25 Nov 2017 20:21:48 +0100 (CET)
Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 20:21:48 +0100
From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
To: Glenn McKnight <mcknight.glenn@gmail.com>
cc: 100attendees@ietf.org
In-Reply-To: <CAN7+85dzoeXw2PzbYMZLSzRTDfmPeJ0=nLx7NFaSG-OraaQ4FQ@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <alpine.DEB.2.20.1711252017350.32099@uplift.swm.pp.se>
References: <6449c459-68e5-4fa2-911b-db3cb3d96b80@cea.fr> <7F2A899D-40C3-47CD-A805-5AFF943ABE42@cisco.com> <34351_1511016093_5A10469C_34351_14465_1_d9b4cc17-c882-3f91-9743-0520838871f9@cea.fr> <b00579b3-cb77-398f-f71f-bb4fef17cd18@cea.fr> <CAHkmkwtecuypVwszefVWe6JeKLNdO-8NE8xSjX=8U+r-iVstwQ@mail.gmail.com> <49171_1511250201_5A13D919_49171_12611_4_4dc8165d-7c2a-4f17-e551-df5cfa711624@cea.fr> <2a7e1dba-9a23-f7bb-532a-07d6ce86a27d@cea.fr> <alpine.DEB.2.20.1711251804460.32099@uplift.swm.pp.se> <CAN7+85dzoeXw2PzbYMZLSzRTDfmPeJ0=nLx7NFaSG-OraaQ4FQ@mail.gmail.com>
User-Agent: Alpine 2.20 (DEB 67 2015-01-07)
Organization: People's Front Against WWW
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"; format="flowed"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/100attendees/meJALXfmYBieX7vW7W86BPI7Gls>
Subject: Re: [100attendees] [PROVENANCE INTERNET] Re: Long taxi itinerary from IETF hotel to airport
X-BeenThere: 100attendees@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.22
Precedence: list
List-Id: "Mailing list of IETF 100 attendees that have opted in on this list." <100attendees.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/100attendees>, <mailto:100attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/100attendees/>
List-Post: <mailto:100attendees@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:100attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/100attendees>, <mailto:100attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Nov 2017 19:21:54 -0000

On Sat, 25 Nov 2017, Glenn McKnight wrote:

> notorious as well. I booked a driver to the Stockholm docks to ferry to 
> Helsinki last year to avoid the rip off artists.  I also did a tour in

Historically, Stockholm (and basically all of Sweden) has been a disgrace 
when it comes to ripping off tourists. It's been one of the most liberal 
taxi markets on the planet, and some drivers took advantage of this but 
setting outrageous fees. All legal. The GOP in US would have been proud, 
it was complete market economy and if you weren't an informed consumer you 
risked being ripped off. Total disgrace.

Now, this has basically been curbed as of a few years ago. There is now a 
max "comparable rate" before you basically need a written contract with a 
fixed fee, before the travel even starts. This is 50% above "market rate" 
for the largest taxi companies, but it at least has taken away most of the 
complete rip-offs.

-- 
Mikael Abrahamsson    email: swmike@swm.pp.se

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email