Re: [100attendees] Incorrect GeoIP for IETF network addresses

Chris Morrow <morrowc@google.com> Mon, 13 November 2017 03:11 UTC

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From: Chris Morrow <morrowc@google.com>
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 03:11:06 +0000
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Subject: Re: [100attendees] Incorrect GeoIP for IETF network addresses
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On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 2:00 PM Darshak Thakore <d.thakore@cablelabs.com>
wrote:

> Thanks all for the feedback
> So here are the results of my experiment
>
> 1. Google Chrome (logged into my google profile) - Just going to
> maps.google.com takes me to www.google.com.sg/maps (which is expected)
> and shows me Singapore location and the “My Location” button shows that it
> acquired my location from my phone history (I have a pixel connected to the
> same account). However clicking on the button takes me to Hilton Prague
> 2. Google Chrome Incognito – Takes me to google.com.sg but clicking on
> “My Location” takes me to Hilton Prague
> 3. Firefox (logged into my google account) – Same behavior as Chrome –
> clicking “My Location” takes me to Prague
> 4. Firefox Incognito – Takes me to Prague
> 5. Safari – going to maps.google.com takes me to google.com.sg/maps AND
> clicking on Location, it actually seems to work right
>
>
all of the above is odd, I'd be happy to see your tests (in the noc).


> Jim, I’ll swing by the NOC in Indiana shortly to see if can collect some
> data points
>
> Darshak
>
> On 11/12/17, 7:44 PM, "Warren Kumari" <warren@kumari.net> wrote:
>
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>     On Mon, Nov 13, 2017 at 10:34 AM, Darshak Thakore
>     <d.thakore@cablelabs.com> wrote:
>     > Hi all,
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Is there a way to update the geoIP that the IETF IP addresses
> resolve to?
>     > I’ve been seeing this behavior for the past few IETF’s where on
> google maps
>     > (or on bing maps for that matter) in a browser, when I allow
> geo-location
>     > (while connected to the IETF* networks) it always resolves to the
> previous
>     > IETF venue.
>
>     So, this is a long, and ongoing problem -- there are many geo-location
>     databases, and getting all of them updated is hard.
>     Erik Kline wrote a document which helps with this --
>     https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-google-self-published-geofeeds-02
>     and the IETF has published these...
>
>     Also, many of the geo solutions also include stuff like the BSSID /
>     MAC address of the radio you are connected to...
>
>     >  So today when I click “Your location” button on google maps, it
>     > shows that I’m at Hilton Prague and when I was in Prague, it showed
> me
>     > Chicago (and so on)
>     >
>
>     So, thi time we thought we got this right for Google / Google Maps at
>     least -- for me / other people who have tried this it seems to finally
>     believe that we are were, er, we are...
>
>     W
>
>     >
>     >
>     > Just wanted to know if there’s something I/we can do to make it
> resolve to
>     > the right venue
>     >
>     >
>     >
>     > Darshak
>     >
>     >
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>     I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad
>     idea in the first place.
>     This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
>     regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair
>     of pants.
>        ---maf
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