Re: [102attendees] [103attendees] Visa problems - need a different invitation letter

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Thu, 18 October 2018 12:22 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2018 14:22:09 +0200
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Subject: Re: [102attendees] [103attendees] Visa problems - need a different invitation letter
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Most of us who are traveling to Thailand and need to go through customs and
immigration are being paid by an employer not in Thailand to go to Thailand.

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 2:20 PM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) <jheitz@cisco.com>
wrote:

> Most of us are “employed or working for income” while attending, not on
> vacation or time off. Someone is paying for our time to be there.
>
> Regards,
> Jakob.
>
>
> On Oct 18, 2018, at 3:50 AM, Lorenzo Colitti <
> lorenzo=40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
> On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 7:49 AM Michael StJohns <msj@nthpermutation.com>
> wrote:
>
>> > Foreigners entering Thailand for MICE without the purposes of being
>> > employed or working for income, but being event attendants will be
>> > regarded as tourists under the definition of Tourism Authority of
>> > Thailand Act of B.E. 2522 (1979).
>
>
> FWIW, this page
> <http://www.thaiembassy.org/helsinki/en/customize/28150-ConferenceBusiness-meetingSeminar.html>
> on the Finnish embassy says something similar: "Foreign nationals wishing
> to enter the Kingdom of Thailand to attend a MICE event, which is endorsed
> or sponsored by TCEB, without being employed or working for income, are
> regarded as tourists". It lists the TCEB website as being www.tceb.or.th,
> and IETF 103 is listed on www.tceb.or.th <http://www.tceb.or..th> as a
> conference here <http://www.tceb.or.th/en/event-calendars/article/1>. The
> TCEB page on visas is here
> <http://www.tceb.or.th/en/article/visa-requirements>.
>
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