Re: [102attendees] [103attendees] Visa problems - need a different invitation letter

[Antoni Przygienda <[e-mail]>]

FYI, I asked nicely the Thai contacts on the webpage to tailor the invitation letter to specifically what my consultant/consulate/other consorts ;-) requested and they did so. Super friendly and fast … So now I’m rolling that way and I get the visa refused with all the rigmarole I probably play @ the border the “ich nicht sprechen Deutsch” card and try to go in as tourist ;-)

--- tony


Thus spake <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]> on behalf of [e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>>:

Read the text yourself. Nowhere does it say or imply “Thai employer” or getting the income from a Thai national.

Thanks,
Jakob.


On Oct 18, 2018, at 5:36 AM, Ted Lemon <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
[citation needed]

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 2:35 PM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
Note that whether the employer is Thai or not makes no difference.
Regards,
Jakob.


On Oct 18, 2018, at 5:22 AM, Ted Lemon <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
Most of us who are traveling to Thailand and need to go through customs and immigration are being paid by an employer not in Thailand to go to Thailand.

On Thu, Oct 18, 2018 at 2:20 PM Jakob Heitz (jheitz) <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
Most of us are “employed or working for income” while attending, not on vacation or time off. Someone is paying for our time to be there.
Regards,
Jakob.


On Oct 18, 2018, at 3:50 AM, Lorenzo Colitti <lorenzo=[e-mail]<mailto:lorenzo=[e-mail]>> wrote:
On Thu, Sep 6, 2018 at 7:49 AM Michael StJohns <[e-mail]<mailto:[e-mail]>> wrote:
> Foreigners entering Thailand for MICE without the purposes of being
> employed or working for income, but being event attendants will be
> regarded as tourists under the definition of Tourism Authority of
> Thailand Act of B.E. 2522 (1979).

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