[103attendees] Difficulty using microphones
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Subject: [103attendees] Difficulty using microphones
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Only indirectly related to our AV issues... For those of us who do not use headsets (or worse, our computer microphones) on a regular basis, the fact that the user can not hear his own voice is actually a major problem. I can not tell if I am talking too loudly, too softly, or otherwise having difficulty. Which tends to cause one to do strange things like moving a microphone that is already well-placed out of concern. While the displays that show and indication of your volume are helpful, and pretesting with larger indicators gives some confidence, it still seems to be a difficult problem for intermittent users. Yours, Joel On 11/12/18 3:32 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: > On Sun, 11 Nov 2018, Michael Richardson wrote: > >> So, why do I see people holding the mic on the cord up to their face, >> so that we can't see their face half the time? > > That's not needed. That's user error. People think it's needed but they > have never tried to hear their own voice while it's just hanging down > the side. >
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- [103attendees] Difficulty using microphones Joel M. Halpern