Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Thanks, Bangkok !)
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From: "Henderson, Karl" <KHenderson@verisign.com>
To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
CC: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>, "103attendees@ietf.org" <103attendees@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Thanks, Bangkok !)
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+1. I’m not sure why turnout was so much lower than Singapore. Bangkok and hotel = fabulous venue. Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 10, 2018, at 12:29 AM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> wrote: > > Carsten (and others), > > For the benefit of those of us who are remote and for anyone > concerned about remote participation, could you be more precise > about the AV issues you saw. I have never found the Meetecho > people and network/NOC staff and volunteers to be anything but > responsive, often astonishingly so -- the exact opposite of > "sloppy" -- and we don't thank them often enough. On the other > hand, we have had problems in the past when hotel staff run the > AV equipment and don't take it quite as seriously as we do. I'm > aware of at least one incident of that during this meeting when > a probably-important comment was made into a floor microphone > that was not transmitting. > > This is important, IMO. Many years ago, we concluded that > audio feeds, IM, and, later archiving of meetings was important > enough to us that we couldn't rely on hotel networks. As I > understand it, if a venue told us that their facilities and > staff were required to be used and that our people did not have > direct control over them, the people in the meeting site > selection process decided to find another venue. As our > dependency on remote participation has risen and our presumed > commitment to it has as well, are we at the point at which we > need the same policy for A/V operations: The facility is asked > during the site selection process whether we will be able to > operate it ourselves. If the answer is "no", we move on and, if > it is "yes", that goes into the contract? > > I know this list is not the best place to ask the question, but > it is the one on which the people with the most direct > experience of the meeting are presumably hanging out. > > john > > > --On Friday, November 9, 2018 15:44 +0700 Carsten Bormann > <cabo@tzi.org> wrote: > >> ... >> The biggest problem (relatively speaking, because it never was >> a big problem) was the slightly sloppy attitude of the AV >> people. >> ... > > > > -- > 103attendees mailing list > 103attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/103attendees >
- [103attendees] Thanks, Bangkok ! Alexander Pelov
- Re: [103attendees] Thanks, Bangkok ! Yazid AKANHO
- Re: [103attendees] Thanks, Bangkok ! Mahesh Jethanandani
- Re: [103attendees] Thanks, Bangkok ! Carsten Bormann
- Re: [103attendees] Thanks, Bangkok ! Black, David
- Re: [103attendees] Thanks, Bangkok ! Toerless Eckert
- [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Thanks, … John C Klensin
- Re: [103attendees] Thanks, Bangkok ! Sumandra Majee
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Ted Lemon
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… John C Klensin
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Ted Lemon
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Paul Wouters
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Henderson, Karl
- Re: [103attendees] Thanks, Bangkok ! Nabil Benamar
- Re: [103attendees] Thanks, Bangkok ! Paul Wouters
- Re: [103attendees] Thanks, Bangkok ! Randy Bush
- Re: [103attendees] Thanks, Bangkok ! Paul Wouters
- Re: [103attendees] Thanks, Bangkok ! Tomek Mrugalski
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [103attendees] Thanks, Bangkok ! Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [103attendees] Thanks, Bangkok ! Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Michael Richardson
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Michael Richardson
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Michael Richardson
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Stephen Farrell
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Jakob Heitz (jheitz)
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Michael Richardson
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Ted Lemon
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Jared Mauch
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… Mikael Abrahamsson
- Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Than… STARK, BARBARA H
- [103attendees] Difficulty using microphones Joel M. Halpern