Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Thanks, Bangkok !)

"Henderson, Karl" <KHenderson@verisign.com> Sat, 10 November 2018 06:41 UTC

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From: "Henderson, Karl" <KHenderson@verisign.com>
To: John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>
CC: Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>, "103attendees@ietf.org" <103attendees@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Thanks, Bangkok !)
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+1. 

I’m not sure why turnout was so much lower than Singapore. Bangkok and hotel = fabulous venue. 

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> On Nov 10, 2018, at 12:29 AM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com>; wrote:
> 
> Carsten (and others),
> 
> For the benefit of those of us who are remote and for anyone
> concerned about remote participation, could you be more precise
> about the AV issues you saw.   I have never found the Meetecho
> people and network/NOC staff and volunteers to be anything but
> responsive, often astonishingly so -- the exact opposite of
> "sloppy" -- and we don't thank them often enough.  On the other
> hand, we have had problems in the past when hotel staff run the
> AV equipment and don't take it quite as seriously as we do.  I'm
> aware of at least one incident of that during this meeting when
> a probably-important comment was made into a floor microphone
> that was not transmitting.
> 
> This is important, IMO.   Many years ago, we concluded that
> audio feeds, IM, and, later archiving of meetings was important
> enough to us that we couldn't rely on hotel networks.  As I
> understand it, if a venue told us that their facilities and
> staff were required to be used and that our people did not have
> direct control over them, the people in the meeting site
> selection process decided to find another venue.  As our
> dependency on remote participation has risen and our presumed
> commitment to it has as well, are we at the point at which we
> need the same policy for A/V operations: The facility is asked
> during the site selection process whether we will be able to
> operate it ourselves. If the answer is "no", we move on and, if
> it is "yes", that goes into the contract?
> 
> I know this list is not the best place to ask the question, but
> it is the one on which the people with the most direct
> experience of the meeting are presumably hanging out.
> 
>    john
> 
> 
> --On Friday, November 9, 2018 15:44 +0700 Carsten Bormann
> <cabo@tzi.org>; wrote:
> 
>> ...
>> The biggest problem (relatively speaking, because it never was
>> a big problem) was the slightly sloppy attitude of the AV
>> people.  
>> ...
> 
> 
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