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Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Thanks, Bangkok !)

Michael Richardson <mcr@sandelman.ca> Sun, 11 November 2018 18:38 UTC

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Subject: Re: [103attendees] A/V in Bangkok (was: Re: [Thanks, Bangkok !)
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Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se> wrote:
    > On Sat, 10 Nov 2018, Michael Richardson wrote:

    >> People need to learn the value of an $80 gamer headset (over ear
    >> cushions and boom mic), over trying to use their iPhone ear buds, or
    >> worse, their laptop built-in mic.

    > Actually the iPhone ear buds provide excellent value and experience at
    > both ends of the conversation. There is zero reason to choose the gamer
    > headset.

So, why do I see people holding the mic on the cord up to their face,
so that we can't see their face half the time?

I suspect that the ear-bud+mic headsets are simply not of equal quality.

    > But +100000 on not using the built in laptop mic or even worse, not
    > wearing headset at all. Echo or feedback is really annoying, and the
    > biggest problem is that it doesn't affect the person causing it.

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