Re: [103attendees] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-elkschul-conflict-problem-00.txt

"Joel M. Halpern" <jmh@joelhalpern.com> Thu, 08 November 2018 08:08 UTC

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Subject: Re: [103attendees] Fwd: New Version Notification for draft-elkschul-conflict-problem-00.txt
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For clarification, is your point that "rough consensus" does not work 
well in some circumstances, or that our techniques for arriving at / 
determining the rough consensus can be improved in some cases?

Yours,
joel

On 11/8/18 3:00 PM, nalini elkins wrote:
>  > I am not sure where the best place to discuss this draft is, but I am 
> pretty sure that a mailing list of a subset of folks who are attending 
> the current IETF meeting is most
> 
>  > definitely **not** the best place.____
> 
> 
> How about the IETF-discuss list?  Any suggestions?
> 
> 
>  > I also share Ted’s concern that there is an implied repudiation of 
> “rough consensus” in this draft, and we would all be better served if it 
> were made explicit.
> 
> __
> 
> __
> 
> I am not sure how that is coming about.  I really did not have any 
> intention of repudiating "rough consensus".  Just pointing out some 
> places where it does not work well.  I am actually confused about why 
> people are reading it this way.
> 
> 
> Nalini
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 10:59 AM, Salz, Rich <rsalz@akamai.com 
> <mailto:rsalz@akamai.com>> wrote:
> 
>     I am not sure where the best place to discuss this draft is, but I
>     am pretty sure that a mailing list of a subset of folks who are
>     attending the current IETF meeting is most definitely **not** the
>     best place.____
> 
>     __ __
> 
>     I also share Ted’s concern that there is an implied repudiation of
>     “rough consensus” in this draft, and we would all be better served
>     if it were made explicit.____
> 
>     __ __
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Thanks,
> Nalini Elkins
> President
> Enterprise Data Center Operators
> www.e-dco.com <http://www.e-dco.com>
> 
> 
>