Re: [104attendees] Time change in Europe

"Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> Mon, 01 April 2019 14:41 UTC

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From: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 01 Apr 2019 10:41:19 -0400
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Subject: Re: [104attendees] Time change in Europe
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Tom,

There is some amount of support in Massachusetts as well. I would
personally like to see it happen. If you look at the map we really do
belong in the Atlantic zone.

Cheers,
Andy


On Mon, Apr 1, 2019 at 10:11 AM Tom Pusateri <pusateri@bangj.com> wrote:

> New Hampshire came up with this trick as a way to expedite the approval
> process for the change. But they don’t want to do it unless the other
> states around them do it too.
>
> The current rules in the US allow the states to opt-in or opt-out of
> daylight savings time.  They can permanently opt-out but not permanently
> opt-in without congressional approval. But they can change their current
> time zone with only agency approval. This is a lower bar to cross. So
> changing their time zone to one east and then opting out permanently has
> the effect of opting in permanently in their current time zone.
>
> Retail support is strong for permanent daylight savings time so it will
> eventually happen because of their strong lobby but there is resistance in
> the agriculture sector.
>
> Tom
>
> On Apr 1, 2019, at 3:52 PM, Andrew G. Malis <agmalis@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> There is a proposal to move the New England states to the Atlantic Time
> Zone (GMT-4) and abolish summer time. The effect would be the same as
> staying in the Eastern time zone with permanent summer time.
>
> Cheers,
> Andy
>
>
> On Sat, Mar 30, 2019 at 5:24 PM Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com>
> wrote:
>
>> If the US votes to go daylight time all year round, I am going to start a
>> movement to get Michigan to Central time.  We really are completely in the
>> Central zone.  The placement in the Eastern zone was pushed by businesses
>> that wanted to be in the same timezone as Wall Street.
>>
>> When we had double daylight during Carter and there were a number of
>> school children fatalities going to school, they at least split the Upper
>> Peninsula.  But really all of Michigan needs to move to Central time.
>>
>> As for Europe, consider where Spain is in relation to England.  It is
>> also in the wrong timezone.
>>
>> On 3/30/19 10:02 PM, Filip Skokan wrote:
>>
>> Fun fact. Each country may adopt that directive in their own way. Fingers crossed we won’t end up with +- 1 hour in the same timezone ;)
>>
>> Odesláno z iPhonu
>>
>> 30. 3. 2019 v 21:52, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> <cabo@tzi.org>:
>>
>>
>> On Mar 30, 2019, at 21:31, Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> wrote:
>>
>> For those Americans in EU Saturday night, we get to leap forward a 2nd time this year...
>>
>> Remember to set your watches.  Again!
>>
>> Yes, I almost missed a flight already because the US and EU don’t even think about aligning their “daylight savings” [NOT!] times.
>>
>> Good that at least the EU is getting rid of this satire [2] turned into law, in 2021 [1].
>>
>> Grüße, Carsten
>>
>> [1]: https://www.dw.com/en/eu-parliament-votes-to-end-daylight-savings/a-48064185
>> [2]: https://www.dw.com/en/summertime-what-a-joke/a-45302669
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