Re: [104attendees] PRG Departures Experience

"Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@gmail.com> Tue, 02 April 2019 13:52 UTC

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Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2019 09:52:12 -0400
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Sandy,

My connection was the opposite of yours. I flew Air France from PRG to CDG
and connected to a flight to Boston. At CDG, the emigration line to leave
the Schengen Area was very short, and we didn't have to go through any
security in order to reach the gates for US flights (by comparison, a few
weeks ago I connected in Munich and had to re-clear security to reach the
US gates). I did have to walk from 2F to 2E-L, but that was fine, it was
all within a single security perimeter. So next time I recommend connecting
at CDG rather than Brussels.

Cheers,.
Andy


On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 9:19 AM Sandra Murphy <sandy@tislabs.com> wrote:

> A late report, but maybe of interest for next visit.
>
> My flight out was on Brussels Airline at 6:40am to Brussels.  I took a
> taxi at 4:00am, got to the airport at 4:20.  Many of the counter positions
> were marked Closed at that hour, though there was a very long line at the
> Lufthansa positions.  Brussels Airline positions would open at 4:40am.
>
> About 4:45am, two positions opened up for Brussels Airlines.  I was in the
> bag check-in line until 5:50am.  (The Lufthansa line was just clearing at
> that time.) Proceeded through the checkpoint and got to my gate at 6:10am
> (it was a long walk) just as they announced boarding would begin.  I met
> other IETF-ers who took a 4:30am taxi and beat me to the gate - because
> they had advanced status with the airline.  Note to self: arriving at PRG 2
> hrs before flight is advisable, but more than 2 hrs early may find the
> counters are not yet open.
>
> We took off about 30 min late because there was a passenger who was “not
> fit” to travel.  Security and an ambulance were called.  A flight attendant
> told me that the man was inebriated “to the point of coma”, but he did walk
> himself off.  (Do not drink and fly?)
>
> I connected to a US flight in Brussels, with a 3 hour lay over, so I was
> not worried at the delay.
>
> In Brussels, my departing flight was in the B area.  I took the escalator
> up to the B area, to be met by a long line that doubled back on itself at
> the top of the escalator, with no view of what awaited at at the end.  The
> end of the line turned out to be an immigration area with a set of
> switchback roped lines.  In total, that line took took an hour.
>
> The departure screen said the gate had been changed to B6.  Another long
> walk to the gate.  Turned out the boarding pass Brussels Airlines gave me
> was not correct and I got a new one at the transfer desk. The transfer desk
> also told me the gate had changed to gate B10, and put me through a
> perfunctory security check which earned me the all important passport
> stamp.  Then the gate changed to B9.  Then the gate changed back to B6. (An
> airport game to keep the passengers occupied and out of the bars?)
>
> All in all, the three hour layover at BRU was not overly generous.  There
> were several other passengers in the immigration line who had much shorter
> layovers, some of whom started jumping the line in an effort to make their
> flight.   Note to self:  allow lots of transfer time when leaving the EU.
>
> At landing at IAD, the immigration line took 40 min.
>
> Lots of long lines and long walks.
>
> —Sandy
>
>
> > On Mar 29, 2019, at 4:21 AM, Chris Morrow <morrowc=
> 40google.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
> >
> > As I checked in about twenty minutes ago... There were folk in line for
> over 45 minutes they said. (Lufthansa)
> >
> > Security too a bit of time as well... Many folk misunderstanding
> security requirements ;(
> >
> > All though in about 30 total minutes to the other side of security.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 29, 2019, 07:15 Michal Krsek <michal@krsek.cz> wrote:
> > Please do not underestimate queues that can be very long and happen from
> time to time. 30 minutes is very good time and can’t be used as “normal in
> a rush hour”.
> >
> > M
> >
> > On 29 Mar 2019, at 01:52, Livingood, Jason <Jason_Livingood@comcast.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Just sharing my experience today.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> To PRG: It took only 30 minutes by car during the morning rush hour,
> such as it is.
> >>
> >> Terminal: I saw only very short lines for ticketing and baggage check
> areas. The line for security took 10 minutes or less to clear (terminal for
> travel within the EU), and there were several lines open.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It was an overall very fast experience.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Jason
> >>
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