Re: [105attendees] (re. plenary) measuring privacy, trusting devices and verifiability

Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Thu, 25 July 2019 10:18 UTC

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From: Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com>
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Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2019 06:18:31 -0400
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Subject: Re: [105attendees] (re. plenary) measuring privacy, trusting devices and verifiability
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How do you know you switched it off?  :)

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> On Jul 25, 2019, at 1:31 AM, Tobias Muhanguzi <mztoby12@ieee.org> wrote:
> 
> To a user, not tech person...the ability for me to switch off what i
> don't understand, or not fully convinced of feature on a device is
> power, and measure of security confidence...
> 
>> On 7/25/19, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote:
>>> On Jul 24, 2019, at 6:40 PM, David Lamparter <equinox@diac24.net> wrote:
>>> The /only/ situation where I will trust (and recommend others to trust)
>>> any device is when I have the ability to build and compare the code that
>>> runs on it.
>> 
>> That’s great for you, but impractical for the average person.   The average
>> person either has to just hope for the best, or has to pay someone who
>> offers to provide this (what you do on your own) as a service.   There are
>> lots of options for this—I believe it is how Canonical and Red Hat pay the
>> bills.
>> 
>> 
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