Re: [105attendees] Fwd: And a third [was: A couple of opinion pieces]

Ted Hardie <ted.ietf@gmail.com> Mon, 22 July 2019 12:48 UTC

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Date: Mon, 22 Jul 2019 08:48:13 -0400
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Subject: Re: [105attendees] Fwd: And a third [was: A couple of opinion pieces]
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Just to add to Brian's note, this is more than likely, as the IAB is asking
the community specific questions around how to move forward.  The questions
are in the IAB report to the community (
https://www.iab.org/2019/07/18/iab-report-to-the-community-at-ietf-105/);
as that notes, Olaf Kolkman will also present a review of the current RFC
Editor model to help frame some of the timing questions.

regards,

Ted

On Mon, Jul 22, 2019 at 8:38 AM Brian E Carpenter <
brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi everybody,
>
> Sorry if you've already seen this, but since some related issues are
> likely to come up at the plenary session this week, you might find it
> interesting. There have also been a *lot* of messages on the ietf@ietf.org
> list recently about the RFC Series Editor situation, but you'll have to
> look in the list archive for that (
> https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/ietf/).
>
> Regards,
>     Brian Carpenter
>
> -------- Forwarded Message --------
> Subject: And a third [was: A couple of opinion pieces]
> Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2019 16:19:19 +1200
> From: Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@gmail.com>
> Organization: University of Auckland
> To: IETF discussion list <ietf@ietf.org>
>
> Various recent discussions here have made me think that the IETF is
> at a point where some fundamentals in the standards process, the
> publication process, and its basic organization need to be re-evaluated
> and perhaps changed. The goal of course would be to make the IETF more
> useful, not change for its own sake.
>
> It's above my pay grade to decide whether to start an organized
> approach to this, but in addition to the two opinion pieces mentioned
> below, please also consider this:
> https://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~brian/CommentaryIAB.pdf
> This is about the institution, not the people. Please read the opening
> disclaimer, and of course comments are welcome, as always.
>
> Regards
>    Brian Carpenter
>
> On 20-Jun-19 16:24, Brian E Carpenter wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > The first document is early input to the 2019-2020 NomCom and to
> > all those thinking of volunteering for it, or for any of the
> > open leadership positions:
> >
> > Some Thoughts on IETF Community Leadership
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-community-leaders-01
> >
> > The second one is also relevant to NomCom, but also to those who
> > will be involved in the process of identifying the future RFC Series
> > Editor, and to those who care about the IETF standards process in
> general:
> >
> > Request for Comments
> > https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-carpenter-request-for-comments-01
> >
> > Comments are most welcome, but these documents are both personal
> opinions.
> >
> > Regards
> >    Brian Carpenter
> >
>
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