Re: [105attendees] departure report

Ken Murchison <murch@fastmail.com> Mon, 29 July 2019 15:56 UTC

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From: Ken Murchison <murch@fastmail.com>
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On 7/29/19 11:42 AM, Stewart Bryant wrote:
>
>
> On 29/07/2019 16:32, Salz, Rich wrote:
>>>     Just remember the Golden Rule of air travel: never, ever check 
>>> in a bag.
>>
>> I prefer to avoid the Darwinian fight for overhead space.  And, 
>> conversely, not being one of "those jerks" with more than the average 
>> allowance.
>>
>
> +1
>
> I would be much happier with a smaller single bag rule regardless of 
> status, and consequently much less aggression during boarding.


Airlines should be charging for carry-on bags rather than checked bagss 
ince most business travelers will expense the cost anyways. A family on 
vacation should'nt have to pay extra to check a stroller, car seat, etc.


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Ken Murchison
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