Re: [105attendees] Global Entry/NEXUS Travel Tips for Canada

Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net> Tue, 16 July 2019 11:32 UTC

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From: Warren Kumari <warren@kumari.net>
Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2019 07:31:47 -0400
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Subject: Re: [105attendees] Global Entry/NEXUS Travel Tips for Canada
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I applied for Nexus a few years ago - I filled in the application while
sitting in a NANOG, and trying to both listen to the session while
simultaneously trying to remember all the countries I’d been to in the last
N years. I was scrolling down the list, and remembered that I’d been to an
ICANN meeting in Seoul — so I went down to Korea, and without thinking
chose “Korea, Democratic Republic of” (forgetting the truism that if the
name contains “Democratic “ it probably isn’t)...
I realized my mistake as I hit Submit, but by then it was too late...

You have to go to Canada for the interview, so I flew up to Toronto just
for this - when going through customs they asked how long I was staying -
so I told the truth - 3hours. This triggered all sorts of warnings, and so
I had to have a long chat with the border folk to convince them I wasn’t
doing anything sketchy :-p

Anyway I make it to the interview room, and as I walk in, I say “Hi! Before
we start, I’m an idiot... I checked off North Korea, but it was South
Korea.l
The interviewer breathes a large sigh of relief, shoves a large folder and
book of regulation to one side, smiles and approves my application.

Was well worth the bother - especially for places like Vancouver, where the
lines can be really long...

W

On Tue, Jul 16, 2019 at 5:56 AM Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:

> You are right that GE doesn’t get you expedited to Canada. You can’t use
> the NEXUS lanes. If you have NEXUS you receive GE for free. It really is a
> deal. Plus as mentioned kids under 18 are free in nexus if they apply and
> are approved with their parents at the same time.  This means a whole
> family can get it for $100 regardless of their size.
>
> This works great when we travel to/from or via Canada.
>
>  Citation: i did this with my wife and 4 kids. Works great.
>
> Also it’s on the website :-)
>
> Sent from my iCar
>
> > On Jul 15, 2019, at 11:07 PM, Ken Murchison <murch@fastmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >> On 7/15/19 8:59 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
> >> 1) Bring along your Global Entry card.  It’s useful at the airport
> security line to get you TSA Pre type experience
> >> 2) Bring along your Nexus card.  If you enrolled at a non-airport, make
> an appointment to get your eye scan on file.  Just call them, they
> generally accept walk-up for this.  Also it gives you the TSA Pre type
> experience if you have this instead.
> >> 3) If you qualify for a Global Entry, consider NEXUS instead.  You must
> get your interview at the US/Canada border, but NEXUS is $50/5y vs $100/5y
> for GE.  You also get GE if you have NEXUS.
> >
> > I don't believe that point 3) is entirely correct.  I live a little
> north of Buffalo, NY about 10mi from Niagara Falls and the Canadian border
> and have traveled more into Canada than to Ohio, so I have working
> experience.
> >
> > Nexus gets you TSA pre-check and expedited crossing of the US/Canada
> border in both directions.
> >
> > Global Entry gets you TSA pre-check and expedited entry into the US from
> anywhere, including Canada, but Global entry does NOT get you expedited
> entry into Canada.  And even if you have GE, you need to activate it for
> land entry online in order to use Nexus lanes when entering the US via
> automobile.
> >
> > The bottom line is that if you live close to to the US/Canada border
> like I do, and also travel to Europe or beyond, you want both GE and Nexus.
> >
> > Again, I may be wrong but this is what I have learned through my
> experiences.
> >
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I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in
the first place.
This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing
regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of
pants.
   ---maf