Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Administrative Plenary Time Constraint: Must End by 21:00
"Pete Resnick" <resnick@episteme.net> Wed, 24 July 2019 18:12 UTC
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From: Pete Resnick <resnick@episteme.net>
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Subject: Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Administrative Plenary Time Constraint: Must End by 21:00
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On 24 Jul 2019, at 13:37, john heasley wrote: > Wed, Jul 24, 2019 at 12:39:20PM -0400, Ted Lemon: >> I think any kind of solution that involves peer pressure isn’t >> going to work well. >> >> It might make sense for us to agree in advance to some questions we >> would like answered, and then ask the crowd to hum “I feel that >> this answer was adequate” and then “I feel this answer is not >> complete, please continue.” > > I disagree with 7282. I think humming is an awful approach to > expressing > dis-/interest in any topic. 1) remote attendees can not hum, nor > those > on maillists to which any question must be referred, and as/if there > is a > move toward more remote participation then even fewer can hum. 2) > anonymity > doesn't allow opponents (or proponent) to ask for explanation nor to > attempt > to persuade. 3) non-, dis- & interest often sound equal, resulting in > nothing learned or the person with the largest diaphragm wins. > > Humming should not be used/seen as a solution to behavioral problems. > > This humming ritual should end. In what way do you disagree with 7282? I think 7282 makes most of the points (in different ways) that you just made. pr -- Pete Resnick http://www.episteme.net/ All connections to the world are tenuous at best
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- [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Administrat… Michael StJohns
- Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Adminis… Aaron Falk
- Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Adminis… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Adminis… Salz, Rich
- Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Adminis… Aaron Falk
- Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Adminis… Paul Hoffman
- Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Adminis… Brian E Carpenter
- Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Adminis… Kyle Rose
- Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Adminis… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [105attendees] [IAB] Agenda Bashing was Re: A… Ted Hardie
- Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Adminis… Alissa Cooper
- Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Adminis… Michael Richardson
- Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Adminis… Ted Lemon
- Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Adminis… Mike StJohns
- Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Adminis… john heasley
- Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Adminis… Lou Berger
- Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Adminis… Pete Resnick
- Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Adminis… john heasley
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- Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Adminis… Bron Gondwana
- Re: [105attendees] Administrative Plenary Time Co… Brian Dickson