Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Administrative Plenary Time Constraint: Must End by 21:00

"Aaron Falk" <> Wed, 24 July 2019 13:50 UTC

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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 09:50:37 -0400
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Subject: Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Administrative Plenary Time Constraint: Must End by 21:00
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I’m also a bit concerned about time.  We know there is lots to talk 
about regarding the RSE and, especially if we know there’s a hard 
stop, I think it would be helpful to make as much space for that in the 
plenary agenda.  Mike’s suggestions seem good to me.

The imbalance of ‘mic time’ where one comment from the community 
gets many responses from the dias has been a long time gripe of mine. 
The various perspectives of the I* members are sometimes interesting and 
valuable but it can consume a lot of meeting time. IMO, its a flaw of 
our plenary structure.  Perhaps folks can be more targeted with who a 
question or comment is intended for.

My 0.02CAD.


On 24 Jul 2019, at 9:32, Michael StJohns wrote:

> Hi Alissa -
> Given the hard stop time for the plenary, the importance of the RSE 
> discussion and (AFAICT) the lack of other similar topics for the 
> IESG,  I propose that we move the IAB open mic session to the 
> beginning of the open mic period, and seat the LLC and RSOC with the 
> IAB for that session.   If we have time left over and topics, we can 
> have the IESG take the stage at that time - otherwise those topics can 
> be addressed to the mailing list.
> I would prefer to do this rather than be heavy handed in restricting 
> the time of each speaker/questioner.  I'd also like to ask that as a 
> general matter of course the IAB try to limit the number of IAB 
> responders to a given question to the smallest number necessary in the 
> interests of getting as much community input as possible.
> Thanks - Mike
> On 7/24/2019 7:54 AM, Portia Wenze-Danley wrote:
>> All,
>> The hotel is informed the secretariat that tonight’s administrative 
>> plenary must end by 21:00 in order for their staff to begin setting 
>> up the room for tomorrow morning’s WG sessions.  The chair has 
>> asked plenary presentations be kept to a minimum so we can maximize 
>> time for open mic.
>> Apologies for the late notice.
>> Thank you.
>> ________________________________
>> *Portia Wenze-Danley*
>> IETF Administration LLC Executive Director (Interim)
>> (/Formerly/IETF Administrative Director (IAD)
>> Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)
>> <>

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