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Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Administrative Plenary Time Constraint: Must End by 21:00

Kyle Rose <krose@krose.org> Wed, 24 July 2019 14:29 UTC

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Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2019 10:29:13 -0400
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Subject: Re: [105attendees] Agenda Bashing was Re: Administrative Plenary Time Constraint: Must End by 21:00
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As a brief aside, this:

if the meeting is to serve a constructive purpose, a one minute question
> or comment should get a one minute answer, not 5 or more often repetitious
> answers (as we've seen in the past).
>

should be guidance for every plenary, not just this one.

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