Re: [106attendees] Power strips ? (was: Re: Social event)

Mark Smith <markzzzsmith@gmail.com> Thu, 21 November 2019 12:27 UTC

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Subject: Re: [106attendees] Power strips ? (was: Re: Social event)
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On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, 19:45 戴锦友, <djy@fiberhome.com> wrote:

>
> The best solution is that ISO publishes a standard about electric plug and
> the standard
> can be accepted by all countries.  Thus, the adapters will disappear.
>
> 在 2019-11-21 11:54:34,"Toerless Eckert" <tte@cs.fau.de> 写信:
>
> >I am always brining an electric heater to fight the AC, but
> >i forgot my UK adapters.
> >
> >Kidding, but in fact i had hoped/thought we had the better
> >universal power strips in the past in meeting rooms.
> >
> >Those universal power strips are legal in China AFAIK,
> >maybe the next IETF sponsor in Vancouver (Huawei) could
> >sponsor a bunch of them to reuse across future IETF.
> >
> >Of course, there can always be power strip nazis in specific
> >countries, but my hotel also has universal power outlets,
> >so they seem to be legal in Singapore.
> >
> >Cheers
> >    Toerless
> >
> >On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:24:03AM +0800, Dean Bogdanovic wrote:
> >> We are all wrongly dressed. For the future meetings in the warm
> regions, please wear a suit and tie wardrobe and we will feel very
> (temperature wise) comfortable
> >>
> >> > On Nov 21, 2019, at 10:44, Sean Leonard <dev+ietf@seantek.com> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > ???It???s too cold in the Padang meeting room.
> >> > Just one voice. A shivering one.
> >> > Sean
> >> >
> >> >> On Nov 20, 2019, at 11:21 AM, Maisonneuve, Julien (Nokia -
> FR/Paris-Saclay) <julien.maisonneuve@nokia.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Jordi,
> >> >> As you know this dead horse is beaten at every meeting, but the
> default outcome always appears to be that AC champions win and cold
> prevails because there is never consensus on doing anything else.
> >> >> Maybe we should reverse that practise and ensure that a temperature
> of 22-23° would be the default until there is consensus to go below ? (I
> guess consensus on the 22623° value would be an issue too???).
> >> >> But I agree it is not entirely reasonable that almost everyone takes
> a jacket/sweater only to go to meetings, and AMS distributes blankets
> (thanks for that btw) while hotels burn huge amounts of carbon (93% of
> Singapore power is from gas) to satisfy a minority, all this while we
> quietly stumble towards climate catastrophy. I???ll grant planes are worse,
> but here we???re adding (useful) planes to (pointless) excessive AC.
> >> >> J. (shivering, writing under a blanket in a freezing Canning room).
> >> >>
> >> >> From: 106attendees <106attendees-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of
> JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 10:16 AM
> >> >> To: 106attendees@ietf.org
> >> >> Subject: Re: [106attendees] Social event
> >> >>
> >> >> ???Actually this is a generic comment, not only for the social, but
> for all the week in the venue ???
> >> >>
> >> >> Can we as IETF, have a stricter control of the usage of the AC in
> our venues, and make it a contractual requirement, showing that energy
> conservation is important for us, and we don???t want to have freeing
> rooms, especially in hot places where you try to avoid heavy clothes?
> >> >>
> >> >> If a venue is not able to match it, we should reconsider that venue
> for future meetings. It is insane to waste energy and need to bring coats!
> >> >>
> >> >> I rather prefer to have a ???closer??? temperature as the outdoor
> one (I???m not meaning be sweating), with I can partially solve with summer
> clothes, than being frozen and get a cold in every IETF meeting, unless the
> IETF or the venue want to pay for the medical and associated expenses to
> everyone.
> >> >>
> >> >> Regards,
> >> >> Jordi
> >> >>
> >> >> @jordipalet
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> El 19/11/19 17:06, "106attendees en nombre de Maisonneuve, Julien
> (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)" <106attendees-bounces@ietf.org en nombre de
> julien.maisonneuve@nokia.com> escribió:
> >> >>
> >> >> I???m told it should be about 20°C.
> >> >> Some might find it cold considering the outside weather.
> >> >> Surely we could save a bit of AC.
> >> >> Julien.
> >> >>
> >> >> From: 106attendees <106attendees-bounces@ietf.org> On Behalf Of
> Phillip Hallam-Baker
> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 9:44 AM
> >> >> To: 106attendees@ietf.org
> >> >> Subject: [106attendees] Social event
> >> >>
> >> >> Does anyone know if tonights social event is going to be too hot or
> too cold?
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