Re: [106attendees] Power strips ?

[Barry Leiba <[e-mail]>]

> Although I have no idea "how" this is should be done or what might be
> good reasons arguing not to do it, I really think this should be a thing.

ICANN does this, and it really is convenient.  But it's not free.

There's an initial cost for buying the power strips.  That could
certainly be handled by a donation, as Toerless suggests.

There's also an ongoing cost of deploying them at the meetings.
Hotels & conference centres vary in that: some charge significantly
more to deploy *your* power strips than *theirs* -- one wonders why,
but there it is.

I have mentioned this to AMS before, and we discussed it, which is how
I know this.  I'll discuss it further with the IESG and with Jay (IETF
Executive Director), and we'll see where it might go.

Barry

> On 21.11.19 04:54, Toerless Eckert wrote:
> > I am always brining an electric heater to fight the AC, but
> > i forgot my UK adapters.
> >
> > Kidding, but in fact i had hoped/thought we had the better
> > universal power strips in the past in meeting rooms.
> >
> > Those universal power strips are legal in China AFAIK,
> > maybe the next IETF sponsor in Vancouver (Huawei) could
> > sponsor a bunch of them to reuse across future IETF.
> >
> > Of course, there can always be power strip nazis in specific
> > countries, but my hotel also has universal power outlets,
> > so they seem to be legal in Singapore.
> >
> > Cheers
> >      Toerless
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:24:03AM +0800, Dean Bogdanovic wrote:
> >> We are all wrongly dressed. For the future meetings in the warm regions, please wear a suit and tie wardrobe and we will feel very (temperature wise) comfortable
> >>
> >>> On Nov 21, 2019, at 10:44, Sean Leonard <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ???It???s too cold in the Padang meeting room.
> >>> Just one voice. A shivering one.
> >>> Sean
> >>>
> >>>> On Nov 20, 2019, at 11:21 AM, Maisonneuve, Julien (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) <[e-mail]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Jordi,
> >>>> As you know this dead horse is beaten at every meeting, but the default outcome always appears to be that AC champions win and cold prevails because there is never consensus on doing anything else.
> >>>> Maybe we should reverse that practise and ensure that a temperature of 22-23° would be the default until there is consensus to go below ? (I guess consensus on the 22623° value would be an issue too???).
> >>>> But I agree it is not entirely reasonable that almost everyone takes a jacket/sweater only to go to meetings, and AMS distributes blankets (thanks for that btw) while hotels burn huge amounts of carbon (93% of Singapore power is from gas) to satisfy a minority, all this while we quietly stumble towards climate catastrophy. I???ll grant planes are worse, but here we???re adding (useful) planes to (pointless) excessive AC.
> >>>> J. (shivering, writing under a blanket in a freezing Canning room).
> >>>>
> >>>> From: 106attendees <[e-mail]> On Behalf Of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 10:16 AM
> >>>> To: [e-mail]
> >>>> Subject: Re: [106attendees] Social event
> >>>>
> >>>> ???Actually this is a generic comment, not only for the social, but for all the week in the venue ???
> >>>>
> >>>> Can we as IETF, have a stricter control of the usage of the AC in our venues, and make it a contractual requirement, showing that energy conservation is important for us, and we don???t want to have freeing rooms, especially in hot places where you try to avoid heavy clothes?
> >>>>
> >>>> If a venue is not able to match it, we should reconsider that venue for future meetings. It is insane to waste energy and need to bring coats!
> >>>>
> >>>> I rather prefer to have a ???closer??? temperature as the outdoor one (I???m not meaning be sweating), with I can partially solve with summer clothes, than being frozen and get a cold in every IETF meeting, unless the IETF or the venue want to pay for the medical and associated expenses to everyone.
> >>>>
> >>>> Regards,
> >>>> Jordi
> >>>>
> >>>> @jordipalet
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> El 19/11/19 17:06, "106attendees en nombre de Maisonneuve, Julien (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)" <[e-mail] en nombre de [e-mail]> escribió:
> >>>>
> >>>> I???m told it should be about 20°C.
> >>>> Some might find it cold considering the outside weather.
> >>>> Surely we could save a bit of AC.
> >>>> Julien.
> >>>>
> >>>> From: 106attendees <[e-mail]> On Behalf Of Phillip Hallam-Baker
> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 9:44 AM
> >>>> To: [e-mail]
> >>>> Subject: [106attendees] Social event
> >>>>
> >>>> Does anyone know if tonights social event is going to be too hot or too cold?
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