Re: [106attendees] Power strips ?
Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> Thu, 21 November 2019 14:56 UTC
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From: Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
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Subject: Re: [106attendees] Power strips ?
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The idea was not to have different strips for differnent countries, so drop the factor 5-6. 4000/6 * 10 USD/strip (cost in china) = 6666 USD. Price for buying once is IMHO not the issues for a sponsor, shipping cos by volume might be. Strips are not that bad, but the cables for each of them adds to volume in a way thats hard to calculate. On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 06:29:03PM +0800, Loa Andersson wrote: > All, > > I counted in Collyer, there are at least 70, if we need to have strips > for 5-6 mayor countries that will be close 400, we have more than 10 > meeting rooms that brings the number of strips to 4000. > > The example did cost of 20 USD, a total of 80 kUSD, which I think would > have an impact on the meeting fee, > > /Loa > > On 21/11/2019 18:02, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > Then you have not counted the NUMBER of strips deployed! :-) > > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > > Editor & Publisher > > The Internet Protocol Journal > > Cell: +1 415 370-4628 > > T-Mobile: +1 415 889-9821 > > Docomo: +81 90 3337 9311??? > > http://protocoljournal.org > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > On 21 Nov 2019, at 18:01, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote: > > > > > > ???On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 05:06:01PM +0800, Ole Jacobsen wrote: > > > > The universal power strips are both legal and common in most of > > > > Asia. The ???best??? ones have a power tail plugin for the part > > > > that goes to the wall, so you carry the strip plus local power > > > > cable. We got a bunch of these for APRICOT years ago and shipped > > > > them from venue to venue along with our routers an WiFi kit. > > > > > > > > But, honestly, personal one-port adapters work just fine. I > > > > don???t really see a need to > > > > burden the secretariat with more stuff. > > > > > > I was hope we could simply attach them to the network gear shipment, > > > where they shoud be a minor part and then let whoever installs the > > > power-strips into meeing rooms these day use those poewr strips. > > > Aka: this shouldn't involve secretariat. > > > > > > Cheers > > > Toerless > > > > > > > These adapters (UK version shown) are my personal favorites. > > > > They have a universal ???face??? and localized plug PLUS a > > > > splitter for US/EU: > > > > > > > > AC POWER TRAVEL ADAPTER PLUG FOR UNITED KINGDOM UK ENGLAND > > > > IRELAND SCOTLAND MALAYSIA HONG KONG / WITH DUAL PLUG-IN PORTS > > > > AND SURGE PROTECTION / GROUNDED > > > > > > > > https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00349OSOS/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_GkL1Db3C8WQ7V > > > > > > > > > > > > Ole J. Jacobsen > > > > Editor & Publisher > > > > The Internet Protocol Journal > > > > Cell: +1 415 370-4628 > > > > T-Mobile: +1 415 889-9821 > > > > Docomo: +81 90 3337 9311??? > > > > http://protocoljournal.org > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > On 21 Nov 2019, at 15:15, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@computer.org> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > ??? > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect venue isn???t going to allow power strips that > > > > > > aren???t approved in their country. > > > > > > Too much legal and safety risks for them. > > > > > > > > > > > > To me this would create a lot of complexity and cost > > > > > > for the secretariat and the IETF. > > > > > > Not really warranted. My plug adapters work fine. > > > > > > > > > > As I noted, ICANN does it, and it works. We could find out from them > > > > > what sorts of costs and approvals are involved, but they don't seem to > > > > > have problems with their not being allowed. > > > > > > > > > > Barry
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