Re: [106attendees] Social event

Carlos Marcelo Martinez Cagnazzo <carlosm3011@gmail.com> Thu, 21 November 2019 03:50 UTC

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From: Carlos Marcelo Martinez Cagnazzo <carlosm3011@gmail.com>
To: Dean Bogdanovic <dean@voltanet.io>
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I brought a light sweater with me and I’ve been also wearing long jeans. I’ve been ok temperature-wise 95% of the time.

Sure, there were some rooms and particular times when it felt really cold, but still my sympathies are with the building's engineering and maintenance team.

It’s notoriously difficult to do AC for such large spaces, and fine tuning the temperature for the individual tastes of 1000+ conference attendees even more so.

I also believe that for the very humid clime of Singapore, AC also plays a role in keeping mold in check.

Carlos

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On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 11:24, Dean Bogdanovic <dean@voltanet.io> wrote:
We are all wrongly dressed.. For the future meetings in the warm regions, please wear a suit and tie wardrobe and we will feel very (temperature wise) comfortable
On Nov 21, 2019, at 10:44, Sean Leonard <dev+ietf@seantek.com> wrote:

It’s too cold in the Padang meeting room. Just one voice. A shivering one. Sean

On Nov 20, 2019, at 11:21 AM, Maisonneuve, Julien (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) < julien.maisonneuve@nokia.com [julien.maisonneuve@nokia.com] > wrote:
Jordi, As you know this dead horse is beaten at every meeting, but the default outcome always appears to be that AC champions win and cold prevails because there is never consensus on doing anything else. Maybe we should reverse that practise and ensure that a temperature of 22-23° would be the default until there is consensus to go below ? (I guess consensus on the 22623° value would be an issue too…). But I agree it is not entirely reasonable that almost everyone takes a jacket/sweater only to go to meetings, and AMS distributes blankets (thanks for that btw) while hotels burn huge amounts of carbon (93% of Singapore power is from gas) to satisfy a minority, all this while we quietly stumble towards climate catastrophy. I’ll grant planes are worse, but here we’re adding (useful) planes to (pointless) excessive AC. J. (shivering, writing under a blanket in a freezing Canning room). From: 106attendees < 106attendees-bounces@ietf.org [106attendees-bounces@ietf..org] > On Behalf Of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 10:16 AM
To: 106attendees@ietf.org [106attendees@ietf.org]
Subject: Re: [106attendees] Social event Actually this is a generic comment, not only for the social, but for all the week in the venue … Can we as IETF, have a stricter control of the usage of the AC in our venues, and make it a contractual requirement, showing that energy conservation is important for us, and we don’t want to have freeing rooms, especially in hot places where you try to avoid heavy clothes? If a venue is not able to match it, we should reconsider that venue for future meetings. It is insane to waste energy and need to bring coats! I rather prefer to have a “closer” temperature as the outdoor one (I’m not meaning be sweating), with I can partially solve with summer clothes, than being frozen and get a cold in every IETF meeting, unless the IETF or the venue want to pay for the medical and associated expenses to everyone. Regards,Jordi

@jordipalet



El 19/11/19 17:06, "106attendees en nombre de Maisonneuve, Julien (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)" < 106attendees-bounces@ietf.org [106attendees-bounces@ietf.org] en nombre de julien.maisonneuve@nokia.com [julien.maisonneuve@nokia.com] > escribió: I’m told it should be about 20°C.. Some might find it cold considering the outside weather. Surely we could save a bit of AC. Julien. From: 106attendees < 106attendees-bounces@ietf.org [106attendees-bounces@ietf.org] > On Behalf Of Phillip Hallam-Baker
Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2019 9:44 AM
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Subject: [106attendees] Social event Does anyone know if tonights social event is going to be too hot or too cold? -- 106attendees mailing list 106attendees@ietf.org [106attendees@ietf.org] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/106attendees [https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/106attendees]
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