Re: [107attendees] Where the action is, at virtual meetings ...

Robert Moskowitz <rgm-ietf@htt-consult.com> Fri, 27 March 2020 18:51 UTC

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Subject: Re: [107attendees] Where the action is, at virtual meetings ...
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On 3/27/20 2:29 PM, Ted Lemon wrote:
> On Mar 27, 2020, at 2:17 PM, Robert Moskowitz 
> <rgm-ietf@htt-consult.com <mailto:rgm-ietf@htt-consult.com>> wrote:
>> point-and-click only works for special plugins like WebEx.  I can't 
>> point-and-click to send an email, as I have 4 email clients running 
>> at any time.  I have to right-click, copy, switch, open , and paste….
>
> Yes, if you shoot yourself in the foot with a double-barreled shotgun, 
> the IETF is not going to be able to protect you.

It was a eyes-wide-open decision:  Multiple instances of Thunderbird or 
multiple mail accounts in one Thunderbird instance.  Lots of things do 
not support the first decision, but it is what I have done for years.

That said...

>   When I click on a mailto: link, I get a compose window in my MUA, 
> because I’m not doing something weird.  I say this not as a criticism, 
> but simply to point out that we can do a lot to improve UX without 
> solving every edge case.
>
>> And each Jabber client is different in how it takes info to open a 
>> conversation. Pidgin did not work with what was there.  So a lot of 
>> work will be needed here.  Maybe a new protocol?
>
> Slack works orders of magnitude better than jabber for this.  If we 
> don’t want slack, then we need better jabber.   Slack is a really easy 
> solution to the problem, though—I don’t think better jabber is worth 
> spending time on, honestly.
>
I have looked around a bit on what xmpp:jaberserver is suppose to do.  
Best I can figure out is Pidgin has not figured this out.  This is out 
of my area of work.  I will try my best to follow along behind others.