IETF Logo Mail Archive

Re: [108attendees] Successful IETF 108

Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@nomountain.net> Sun, 02 August 2020 07:34 UTC

Return-Path: <melinda.shore@nomountain.net>
X-Original-To: 108attendees@ietfa.amsl.com
Delivered-To: 108attendees@ietfa.amsl.com
Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id ED6FA3A0A98 for <108attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 2 Aug 2020 00:34:29 -0700 (PDT)
X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com
X-Spam-Flag: NO
X-Spam-Score: -0.946
X-Spam-Level:
X-Spam-Status: No, score=-0.946 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, NICE_REPLY_A=-0.949, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no
Authentication-Results: ietfa.amsl.com (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=nomountain-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com
Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 1w47Wmb7_L1z for <108attendees@ietfa.amsl.com>; Sun, 2 Aug 2020 00:34:28 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from mail-pg1-x52a.google.com (mail-pg1-x52a.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::52a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C4C473A0A92 for <108attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 2 Aug 2020 00:34:28 -0700 (PDT)
Received: by mail-pg1-x52a.google.com with SMTP id j19so18213189pgm.11 for <108attendees@ietf.org>; Sun, 02 Aug 2020 00:34:28 -0700 (PDT)
DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=nomountain-net.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=subject:to:references:from:autocrypt:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=qSlGYfT5Bva8Kvtigs4uJmg5kvqmrhYv5rZOwlnjsIw=; b=OsxRbDq0KNwswOKOwC+HujJr+z82MLs4EHNxCXdhsfgnaSFUKhyb7qh184dloLgGGA 1qJz3vc7coFeg0nJyWEpX99O8VyKGHdERPXgHIiPnd8fWvovQdmczWHV9SH1xa2naqr5 4AbQROa6EPz5TA2sBW3NpE3KVqg5nn0Jd5zAJt4xT8d2QwVhIJc/wxuLhFHB2CX8Vk6d FR6vLYi3mKNK3CPBnl7OenoPEVM3BROAZsHkjeBzni6WE5GOFpPj6bzYB9OSjlUwX4PU Dc4V2P6xuiDRS+uuwDny+9M0sj+ngr/DWyxPMmFGfxhRT+MBZ8pHnyq/e23BmIcuhgPZ fIGg==
X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:autocrypt:message-id :date:user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=qSlGYfT5Bva8Kvtigs4uJmg5kvqmrhYv5rZOwlnjsIw=; b=YfzMlb5Yxfp2JMUsrYqddvQlNkWpgIwHR/0OM0gWRDs8CLTvtPDJce8u8sUgYAhVXK GEWy4CLC3obJDJOzyCYxUHBbXdA1E8bKulp/au9UXsrGEYNRqCB1he9wcHQr0TPGkOob xfjWQIKqQB2LdegjkOTL+z6/ihakVfk1vumJUksfb80xM2oFHGeMeR3W5Sy6TLNgvKg2 6g8H5Y4utPtkf4CUVk17aObUfgzchVuwgqIyTqBSlExFgRk9WsF374/w5pTykK4Jlbk6 B8R/gtyer3Ki2pb3bokNs8HPg07VjsCCXr23dP9YXU4Yamj8TMADt/5Vp4I4nYnrr0Bi SW4A==
X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533VKovAx+VVrs0Yk7T6eumIxBFCdEv4Gku0Jw+86i8ql6UJ73Vz abkBJ/2F4+G1AxzVzqm8m9a4GARQIA==
X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJxkhaBAka+VMwUEe/jluf6G0WGRnOgXbmXAn1cG3CtWGtROkTZZ8YEJkWhMYtvHnaH7MGnBjQ==
X-Received: by 2002:a62:5284:: with SMTP id g126mr10408957pfb.139.1596353667986; Sun, 02 Aug 2020 00:34:27 -0700 (PDT)
Received: from aspen.local (63-140-73-54-rb1.jnu.dsl.dynamic.acsalaska.net. [63.140.73.54]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id b13sm16913787pgd.36.2020.08.02.00.34.26 for <108attendees@ietf.org> (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 02 Aug 2020 00:34:27 -0700 (PDT)
To: 108attendees@ietf.org
References: <DF9553CF-3B73-43C3-9BCF-5160A1949EC7@gmail.com> <3b9cc8e5-a9f2-cc44-8fc5-6b7649e43343@cs.tcd.ie> <392F9FEA-BA4A-4E57-B80D-D5B288B9887A@jisc.ac.uk> <f86a44a9-1f0e-9619-1a01-d2f9c98a756a@huitema.net> <20200802025924.GH1772@faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <3C71AFFA-E6D5-446C-B20A-C35B1EB8FFDF@nostrum.com> <20200802060510.GI1772@faui48f.informatik.uni-erlangen.de> <B84FE719-CD3F-4459-BE92-49DCECD1CB93@jisc.ac.uk>
From: Melinda Shore <melinda.shore@nomountain.net>
Autocrypt: addr=melinda.shore@nomountain.net; prefer-encrypt=mutual; keydata= mQINBFppZ0gBEADFwxAi5szDOsM/6+CH4pbYTX7D+2gjLY4xEE7ydQcAF1WVLvcWXrpZM0GO /eA4N1PJ+OT5o8o9zVr7izMJkiLwcnQmxHdlYgZ9E+Cm8hDtMyEPBQwsYTkE5kpbGCmBAZ+W rHNHjvDg366uZQHzJejenB1/V4+rxMZs1Ak34Az2MVOz9Doecaiadpw3NpH3+1VXY/qilqnM lznINSANqD0ktxB/CVKjxl3/K5JnVnLp0h2kiUqt19hQPX2JmLcgaHzu+Ceb34/HZWhs0CiF c4auhQ3A9PcccOprQh6IGW1xo6RP3OEbeRFqeovgBWS+DIWzMIM0a3G2LDid0889QYwEv0zZ RPDCcF3g15mlkeUUmwKQ6eAagPyTqLtTiOKULqy9bQahyX2eqlySrF+HqlwGeNoG+A4l1Z2Y S7NCBLPIzUk2RuSKMBaKw86ORzvg2Advrw4bdv7kbDkArGzywky61SEB/q+GqR466mekXx2F O+m8RuoSnWrBsKvD/bhELHcneorIBleGz+VL7i5adU0rIydG3jPTfUeXoCZIeNx1LannxnAR ihKdh5+FE26WiiK6VmZWkvFjaPFwWGjvAsi82Pd9QgHhnG/XzINpXw/3HF4wtBTU5nIExMzC +FbJxCPq1kXpqSxJqg7hgUFvD5jUD9lpN5Br/S2dUgJj95bbPQARAQABtCxNZWxpbmRhIFNo b3JlIDxtZWxpbmRhLnNob3JlQG5vbW91bnRhaW4ubmV0PokCVAQTAQoAPgIbAwUJCWdTAAUL CQgHAwUVCgkICwUWAgMBAAIeAQIXgBYhBE9oLZMqF5b4IPI0wN+4kXKadtuPBQJaaXRaAAoJ EN+4kXKadtuPVioP/3nVzx33yjiEtqLKTEHwofnLT15CV5wAcGa0DTbqgiomVKzSRkkhbF3Z KIHYrnjVpTcYJuW+PmFSIjNizNVr+vvjNP6ptRqx5orWmK4EBe/B9mrpmIshxUwkYr46uwN4 h06xJS3KCzhfhSsnesH5vlGBkUod0+nQhbSLyLRpxmaKaeAl4dxFSBLU0vUJMLH8PXTZVNof 5Yo+ThqCzu1pwOkBQ8gST2J6zdy4PjU9ENQ9RLAamlAG/6rGHEKLFcnUpEg7Tcu1hSzAsqR8 kjX2Prpu4A9DyLCjTOvfOPQa8WjZy18ZdYOxuPxdrTazeCRVJIvYRflhBCZb744jhMyfAiSW eckwRBVSCnBuvWBJl9Ua1wp8SOUXXhgGI8WGvSkvul6kKSkHQKDggd4cojAhxWLfvmjxn5pz 0BNbvrEBGqgWwO1ZMuJpmv3P8YK5Aytsl85NZoMMUJIDxEQhBUgYz5QTQANBKPi8RsfOntho rhzXLqnPPQcE4Xf9O9XIyy077F0JoyiPx74Zsl1dTxmT73pezpfhKUQR7/QlmJ/FAADpb6SO V0tlgBtR6FAZToBYPDiss57AcKM1zzyJ7sHIZkxQelykYSet6hp2WGcwMXQveWqFMQ4fiGQx XNEPO+KZKNj+0sfINzSLP88O5TniM/l/JrjZZNT/lVAQDTdkCBGyuQINBFppZ0gBEACgZuM1 8ghzSuhuv+n0kWyWCeEWrx9Ey03EgFj5alBt55+OLv3dOsdyBHJxjtd0cZS1XaKZlgr1YZ0O pQNv/Wyy8uSW2BZ6hyG1SKN9/1MmfJLNnjjxaBQP4yaMwDdS3wX7hoWY19IpVPZHYDR35FAg SnG/s6we+IOITM1TJoOJs4+ygeK5dC7LfRoj+lkEHYrTcglYVuwsyK2FNz/sF8kJW1fEZHM6 6phSbhCvwbECWbb4eDGXbKZY92W1RTQ5U5td8DMLXyYipQphrcoeRXpb18DbOnE0WwIQV0yB gc/rTiUt/wVjasd1RrsCPBQC/uJ+ZHknvr2MoxIWBBsRtKYHG66aOL+nDV8X1miuF6j4cztv gmdqrwPHpAKVxhfwd/G4suNBunYw4/kAV9b2+eidX5em3NtPPNl/qNjsmEHQGn/5JKRHRvQs 0yuigXDhN2N0keoHrbGCE8kyA/d83L7E9d95hsf3JxpRzmeaTze+NpcIaX5uXdKOaCBjLtx1 tOrDA4XX7Y3nY+waKZYa3RvC7yulFJiKfYWDSriWeQXcXj06p8H6vF6sy9LeX9xRRjTI7qDH FxwuMQIKGqgufXtxu0pxxcMqXTEUPZnxUWUvuFjjYvEmtO92+Ot/NuotV8JvRPwg2OnYjMJo dU1X7hzEs8djtgZG+t3FEGK3i1EJUQARAQABiQI8BBgBCgAmFiEET2gtkyoXlvgg8jTA37iR cpp2248FAlppZ0gCGwwFCQlnUwAACgkQ37iRcpp2248krg/9H896KtAQCAV0RcV3QqZ75iY5 pCxpRyxAaR0PjE5jiYV5gUHPCKtr9UPZt4Bi+bzNLQ2KJK6Rx4XNf5lQWopEo1IxtOiFPjkr QIpNkYmFWyOGpKpSIDhgsJpswZqxPDLpo+59GNlSUG6v3sMAnx+Gvtvqczkvg6UPDN/JYK75 BIGoCGZMyor1B0EmRYj98LdwjT95dQZXjZvWBDeIx+NxUZKoA7AlR/xgsN3PHGq4SApMLL0R /qbiLIzUPnTPt5sBs0peflVvMrtgIMiZ9FdYPE+VWy5+X2AmeFg6Zl5W76HQUP6eYZQV5abZ +iiW9lY1TmqsqpTIDu/ZMy7pLknxV5E1vQy+wsihluDYydaQ4HWoNaY7QFb+x7TsvjJRi+cH 7By4jxohTWUuaukuMmT0eEaesWJSraAmxsffqJwDpsi0chZskuXjEm9gX6rY7MhzOZl7Vz9F +6MYTtTmT1mpkLAMWf1/JuKUCfnSAHRlDxUOAG6QSJoHWAGqYy3XiF9bN63yQ6xllloSbbMv P9VW0e/iFKMKEIvfIvAg0IrlPcfKAGuuT1axwIU7da/N7LOcXyDDSEUuSzvXL/BkWyjxuLzd LY6eTvC6ZT/fA5iS/PAUj0WbrWNrHQtQ5OY2+al2v6JdLu/w6IZJCBpTosOAOzzmre+31fk1 HKwqd9xRxC8=
Message-ID: <98db2520-d269-62fa-cd0a-df6719193ef6@nomountain.net>
Date: Sat, 01 Aug 2020 23:34:24 -0800
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.14; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/68.11.0
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <B84FE719-CD3F-4459-BE92-49DCECD1CB93@jisc.ac.uk>
Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg="pgp-sha512"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9g06O5KH8VTF1bfaRkdrJG0R1JFyRoRMv"
Archived-At: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/108attendees/5H2WwXccICcNxQAfZL23NkFMFfA>
Subject: Re: [108attendees] Successful IETF 108
X-BeenThere: 108attendees@ietf.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29
Precedence: list
List-Id: Mailing list for IETF 108 attendees <108attendees.ietf.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/options/108attendees>, <mailto:108attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=unsubscribe>
List-Archive: <https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/browse/108attendees/>
List-Post: <mailto:108attendees@ietf.org>
List-Help: <mailto:108attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=help>
List-Subscribe: <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/108attendees>, <mailto:108attendees-request@ietf.org?subject=subscribe>
X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 02 Aug 2020 07:34:30 -0000

On 8/1/20 10:53 PM, Tim Chown wrote:> Would it be crazy to repeat IETF
sessions twice a day?   Imagine last
> week’s schedule, but delivered at (say) 11am UTC and  11pm UTC,
> potentially with different chairs to avoid the 4am Bob scenario.
> Since all decisions are “taken to the list”, then does it matter if
> two instances of (say) 6man at 11am and 11pm UTC might make different
> points and have different threads of discussion?

If the point of having meetings (as opposed to doing everything
on mailing lists) is that real-time, interactive discussion is
very valuable, I think this would work at cross-purposes with
that, esp. since the attendees at each would likely tend to be
grouped by geography.

Melinda


-- 
Melinda Shore
melinda.shore@nomountain.net

Software longa, hardware brevis

v2.23.0 | Report a Bug | By Email