Re: [108attendees] Successful IETF 108

Bron Gondwana <> Tue, 04 August 2020 02:18 UTC

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Date: Tue, 04 Aug 2020 12:17:59 +1000
From: "Bron Gondwana" <>
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On Tue, Aug 4, 2020, at 03:27, Les Ginsberg (ginsberg) wrote:
> FWIW, perhaps we should rethink the traditional meeting agenda.


> Today pretty much everyone does:


>  * Present the slides I published 24 hours before the meeting
>  * In the time left for my slot (little to none because agendas are usually full) entertain questions/discussion

> Instead, don’t present slides at all (still prepare/publish them – and have them available if needed for reference). Each “presenter” gets 10-15 minutes to simply take questions/have discussion – the interactive things that have added value when done “face-to-face”.

> This would use meeting time to do what cannot be done as easily “on the list”. 

There's an assumption in here that the presenting of the slides doesn't have any benefit, which I don't believe is true.

As the presenter talks through the slides they are aligning the thoughts of everybody in the room (including themselves) and hence when we get to the conversation, everybody has the cache state loaded into their brain and the conversation can be productive.  I don't think that "read the slides in advance and come with questions" will give the same alignment.

I'm not saying "there's not better way", but it's worth considering the positives of the existing patterns and seeing how we can preserve them.


  Bron Gondwana, CEO, Fastmail Pty Ltd