Re: [108attendees] Successful IETF 108

Christian Huitema <huitema@huitema.net> Sat, 01 August 2020 18:41 UTC

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On 8/1/2020 2:33 AM, Tim Chown wrote:

>> On 31 Jul 2020, at 20:52, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@cs.tcd.ie> wrote:
>>
>> On 31/07/2020 20:20, Bob Hinden wrote:
>>> I just wanted to thanks everyone involved it putting together IETF
>>> 108.  Overall, I think everything worked out very well.  While I
>>> don’t think it was a productive as a face to face meeting, given we
>>> can’t do that, it was very good.   I say that even though I had a few
>>> sessions that started at 4am local time for me :-)
>>>
>>> Kudos to AMS, Meetecho, NOC Team, tools team, w.g. chairs, IESG, and
>>> everyone else involved.
>> Yep, very much +1. (Except the TZ was friendly to me
>> this time.)
> Yes, being “in the zone” certainly helped.


The time zone was very difficult for me. The 7:00am sessions were easy
enough. I thought that I could wake up at 3:30am for a 4:00am session
(11:00 UTC), and I did that once. But then I needed 2 days to recover,
probably because I am not 20 anymore. I wish we had a good way to
organize asynchronous conversations with higher bandwidth than email,
but more time flexibility than video conferences.

-- Christian Huitema