Re: [108attendees] Successful IETF 108

Alexandre PETRESCU <> Tue, 04 August 2020 14:08 UTC

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Le 02/08/2020 à 07:25, Ben Campbell a écrit :
>> On Aug 1, 2020, at 9:59 PM, Toerless Eckert <> wrote:
>> On Sat, Aug 01, 2020 at 11:40:44AM -0700, Christian Huitema wrote:
>>> The time zone was very difficult for me. The 7:00am sessions were easy
>>> enough. I thought that I could wake up at 3:30am for a 4:00am session
>>> (11:00 UTC), and I did that once. But then I needed 2 days to recover,
>>> probably because I am not 20 anymore. I wish we had a good way to
>>> organize asynchronous conversations with higher bandwidth than email,
>>> but more time flexibility than video conferences.
>> I was suggesting on manycouches to encourage more use of pre-recorded video clips
>> for all those parts of sessions where thats feasible. Watch them in
>> your own time zone in the week before IETF. Reduces the amount of time
>> we need synchronously during IETF week.
>> Of course: Seems to widely depend on the individual RG/WG whether such asynchronuous
>> ToI is a larger or minor part of the time spent in the group.
>> Would be nice if meetecho had stats. If we accounted all the time
>> where individual speakers talked for more than 2 minutes as better done
>> via a pre-recorded clip, how much would that be ?
> Recording video of even marginally useable quality is a huge undertaking for most people.

I would agree.

However, there is an incentive to overcome that hurdle.  The incentive 
is that this might be the sole and best way to interact with others by 
showing her/his face (no mask) for some time to come.

Further, I think that this video presence technology needs to evolve 
even more, and will evolve because of pressure.  From the offline use of 
prompters, and towards things like simulating the eye contact, 
everything will be needed to bring the remote attendance experience 
closer to a real f2f experience.


> I suspect the percentage of IETF contributers that have the skills, time, resources, and inclination to do so is small. A push in this direction would create huge new barrier to participation. Sure, we have a few people who are good at this, but that doesn’t mean it’s easy.
> IMO, If we have hopes of reducing synchronous time, we need to get further away from the idea of “presentations” at all.  The old days of reading drafts and discussing via email handled this better than we do today (with the possible exception of groups that do most everything in github.)
> Thanks,
> Ben.