Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtual Hum tool
Bob Hinden <bob.hinden@gmail.com> Wed, 29 July 2020 19:24 UTC
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Subject: Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtual Hum tool
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Ted, > On Jul 27, 2020, at 6:57 PM, Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> wrote: > > You should really read https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7282. As should anyone who is confused about this. The chairs call consensus. If they are treating humming like a vote, they are doing it wrong. This is fairly common, so I don’t blame you for being confused. Trying to not take a position on is humming a vote, but do want to note that we usually (always?) confirm things like hums in meetings on the mailing list. The use of email for this a lot like voting because it is sent by identified individuals. Bob
- [108attendees] Fwd: Introducing the Meetecho Virt… Martin Duke
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Fred Baker
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Scott O. Bradner
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Paul Wouters
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Martin Duke
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Christian Hopps
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Martin Duke
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Joel M. Halpern
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Andrew Campling
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Michael Richardson
- [108attendees] Fwd: Introducing the Meetecho Virt… Martin Duke
- Re: [108attendees] Fwd: Introducing the Meetecho … John Levine
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Ben Campbell
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Ben Campbell
- Re: [108attendees] Fwd: Introducing the Meetecho … Bret Jordan
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Jacob Uecker
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Bret Jordan
- Re: [108attendees] Fwd: Introducing the Meetecho … John C Klensin
- Re: [108attendees] Fwd: Introducing the Meetecho … Bret Jordan
- Re: [108attendees] Fwd: Introducing the Meetecho … Ted Lemon
- Re: [108attendees] Fwd: Introducing the Meetecho … Bret Jordan
- Re: [108attendees] Fwd: Introducing the Meetecho … Keith Moore
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Pete Resnick
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Bob Hinden
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Bob Hinden
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Ted Lemon
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Jonathan Morton
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Jay Daley
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Don Fedyk
- Re: [108attendees] Introducing the Meetecho Virtu… Alexandre PETRESCU