Re: [108attendees] Successful IETF 108

Keith Moore <> Tue, 04 August 2020 15:55 UTC

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On 8/4/20 11:31 AM, wrote:

>> let go of the control culture and open the mic(s) up.  and i do not mean just a controlled mic queue.  no queue and let it be chaotic.  and yes, we will talk over each other until we figure out that does not work; or maybe it will!  after an hour or three, folk will figure out how to take turns or whatever works.  we might even have <gasp!> conversations about a speaker's work.
> That suggestion, while still potentially a joke, would distinctly favour:
> - Those that speak English as a first language
> - Those with good connectivity
> - Those inclined to filibuster
> - Especially: all of the above combined
> Ergo, I do hope that it isn't being taken as a serious suggestion by anyone reading it.

I took it as a serious suggestion, and an excellent one at that, even 
acknowledging the limitations you cite.   I assume that the Jabber 
channel would still be available and it's been used in the past to 
overcome some connectivity issues.   A Chair is still necessary to 
prevent filibusters.

Also, I assume that the mic queue would still be available for 
situations in which many people wanted to speak at once, and the Chair 
could require people to use it in such situations.   But being able to 
speak back-and-forth quickly without having to reserve media access each 
time is, in my experience, a very useful optimization that can save a 
great deal of time and help a working group converge on useful solutions 
far more quickly than otherwise.