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Re: [110attendees] Meetecho is a resource hog

John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net> Tue, 09 March 2021 17:36 UTC

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From: John Scudder <jgs@juniper.net>
To: Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com>
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Subject: Re: [110attendees] Meetecho is a resource hog
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On Mar 9, 2021, at 12:12 PM, Ben Campbell <ben@nostrum.com<mailto:ben@nostrum.com>> wrote:

On a counter-point: My first-gen airpods are getting _much_ better battery life (on order of 2x) with Meetecho than with other conferencing services. This seems extremely weird to me. I had similar results yesterday using latest production Safari on an M1 macbook pro, and today using latest Chrome on same machine.

Better silence suppression from Meetecho?

—John

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