Re: [111attendees] timing
Larry Masinter <LMM@acm.org> Thu, 29 July 2021 18:56 UTC
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Subject: Re: [111attendees] timing
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Giving end users diagnostics for Audio, video, network bandwidth, latency, jitter And trouble shooting these among software, os, interference, Bluetooth, Buffer bloat, ISP throttling, problems at the other end. Applications include For conferencing, Internet music lessons, gaming That's my main takeaway from https://going-remote.info -- Probably needs to be provided by the OS independent of the application. > On Thu, Jul 29, 2021 at 08:19:36PM +0200, Carsten Bormann wrote: > > The problem is that most conferencing systems make it hard to check > > your audio quality, so people don’t do that. > > I find it curious that even the ones (which I've used) that provide checks at > best replay your audio, or tell "your audio is noisy". > > I figure that a few checks should allow them to give info like "There appears > to be 50Hz line noise in your system, consider moving things from power > cables", "There's low SNR when you talk, move closer to the mike", "Your > setup has echo that can't be cancelled automatically" or "This sounds like > ASMR, get a pop filter unless this is intentional". > Can't be *that* hard to do... > > BR > christian > > -- > There's always a bigger fish. > -- Qui-Gon Jinn
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- Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
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