Re: [111attendees] [Tools-discuss] Positive observations and proposals for improvements to Meetecho (was: Re: Re: So, what are jabber scribes actually doing, these days?)

Eric Rescorla <ekr@rtfm.com> Sun, 01 August 2021 20:41 UTC

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Date: Sun, 1 Aug 2021 13:40:34 -0700
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Cc: Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com>, 111attendees@ietf.org, tools-discuss <tools-discuss@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [111attendees] [Tools-discuss] Positive observations and proposals for improvements to Meetecho (was: Re: Re: So, what are jabber scribes actually doing, these days?)
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On Sun, Aug 1, 2021 at 1:38 PM Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
wrote:

>
> Bron Gondwana <brong@fastmailteam.com> wrote:
>     > *a "temporary mute" mode that keeps the audio stream open:*
>
>     > This is still an issue for me.  I often mute myself while chairing
> so I
>     > can take notes without my keyboard sound interrupting the chat - but
> it
>     > means that I can't easily respond to somebody because the rejigging
> of
>     > the audio channel not only creates a hiccup in the incoming audio
> feed
>     > which means I might miss something someone says, but it also creates
>     > enough of a delay that by the time I could have responded the other
>     > party's mental state has moved on.
>
> Yes, the 3s on/off latency on the audio is a problem.
> So one should use a local mute instead, which of course, then causes
> confusion.
>

Actually, this is not necessary. WebRTC contains APIs which allow you to
mute
the media locally. The delay in Meetecho is a result of the decision to
release
the MediaStream which then needs to be re-acquired, which is not what
Meet, Zoom, etc. do.

-Ekr