Re: [111attendees] test

Lars Eggert <lars@eggert.org> Fri, 23 July 2021 13:38 UTC

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Hi,

On 2021-7-23, at 16:26, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de> wrote:
> I for once think that it will only work well if the in-person
> meeting part would require attendees even when being together
> in a room to use their notebooks for discussions instead
> of having a physical line at a single microphone, so that
> there is more fairness between local and remote, but that
> was never really discussed on manycouches or
> picked up their documents.

that is because SHMOO is not chartered to work on guidelines for hybrid meetings - it is chartered to work on guidelines for fully online meetings. (I think I recall seeing that being pointed out on the manycouches list.)

If community members would like to make proposals for hybrid meetings, that can of course be done via individual I-Ds. But SHMOO cannot begin work in this space without a rechartering.

Thanks,
Lars