Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes actually doing, these days?
John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> Thu, 29 July 2021 14:18 UTC
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Subject: Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes actually doing, these days?
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--On Thursday, July 29, 2021 15:23 +0200 Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org> wrote: > On 2021-07-29, at 15:09, John C Klensin <john-ietf@jck.com> > wrote: >> >> impossible (or, at least non-obvious) to have both the >> chat and participant frames open at the same time. > > It's much worse: You can't have the important part of the > participant frame (who is speaking) open at the same time you > scroll for a potential attendee. Fortunately, there is the > jabber entry/exit trace… Sorry... saw and responded to Spencer's comments before reading this. And, yes. > The important part of the participant frame (who is speaking, > are the chairs present, what is the queue — IN THAT ORDER) > needs to be visible at all time. But I'd rather have that, > the participant list, and the chat visible all three, > somewhere on the vast amounts of blank space that meetecho > leaves on my window. Yes to that too. I'm still (or again) using a separate Jabber login to give me more control over that situation (and to take advantage of having a lot of screen real estate, the ability to at least somewhat control character sizes with that other client, etc. And, because people speak without turning on video, burying the "who is speaking" information partway down the participant frame rather than occupying a separate line in the blank space to which you prefer seems, well, sub-optimal. I agree about the other parts of your "important" list too, but "who is speaking" is the really critical bit. best, john
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- Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes ac… Sean Turner
- Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes ac… Yoav Nir
- Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes ac… Jonathan Hoyland
- Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes ac… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes ac… Spencer Dawkins at IETF
- Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes ac… Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes ac… Andrew G. Malis
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- Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes ac… Andrew G. Malis
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- Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes ac… Watson Ladd
- Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes ac… John C Klensin
- Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes ac… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes ac… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes ac… Carsten Bormann
- Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes ac… John C Klensin
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- Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes ac… Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes ac… John C Klensin
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- Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes ac… Carsten Bormann
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