Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes actually doing, these days?

Watson Ladd <> Thu, 29 July 2021 03:30 UTC

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Subject: Re: [111attendees] So, what are jabber scribes actually doing, these days?
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On Wed, Jul 28, 2021 at 11:54 AM Toerless Eckert <> wrote:
> So, i am trying to sort this stuff:
> Q: Is it correct to assume that by now someone who is ONLY on jabber,
> but not on meetecho has no reasonable expectation to participate in the
> meeting becaus we have gotten rid of the "free" remote-only attendance,
> and that is what we originally (AFAIK) had the jabber scribe function for.
> Thee can be participants with audio send challenges that want to have thier
> question relayed through the meetecho chat/jabber. That is a really
> nice to have, but i think it is SHOULD, so i think it should be sufficient
> to mention it this way during chair slides, but not mandate an official
> function for this.

If you don't mandate a function it won't happen. It's an additional
volunteer, pretty easy thing to do. And at times today quite vital due
to some QoS issues on the transpacific links.

> The ability for chairs to multitask all relevant functions present heavily
> on the use of the "present uploaded slides" instead of screen-share. If
> i am presenting slides as a chair from my notebook for a presenter, it
> nees to be full-screen so it does not help to have multiple windows i
> can not see. If i had a second screen on my notebook that might solve it.
> But it would really be nice if one could join to the same session from
> more than one computer (2nd notebook to monitor meetecho chat/queue).

Charging chairs with this degree of multitasking isn't very   It's not
even the screen space, it's the attention: monitoring the audio and
jabber and queue and the clock is a lot of things to keep track of and
respond to, particularly in a smaller working group that might have
only one chair at the meeting.

> The new upload slides feaure is cool though, and works pretty well!

But alas not that well advertised or used in some of the meetings! It
did get some more usage later on.

> Cheers
>     Toerless