Re: [111attendees] Agenda pains

"Maisonneuve, Julien (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)" <julien.maisonneuve@nokia.com> Thu, 29 July 2021 16:31 UTC

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From: "Maisonneuve, Julien (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay)" <julien.maisonneuve@nokia.com>
To: Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@gmail.com>
CC: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>, "111attendees@ietf.org" <111attendees@ietf.org>
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Subject: Re: [111attendees] Agenda pains
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Meh. A fixed default zone which might not even be close to the meeting or anything related to the viewer doesn't sound like an improvement.
It is definitely sad that people have computers configured for something which is not appropriate for them, but is this a reason to impose hardship on the vast majority of people for whom the locale is set the right way ?
J.

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Subject: Re: [111attendees] Agenda pains

I think UTC is best because it’s predictable and sort-of universal.

Meeting local timezone is at least predictable when you know where the meeting “is”

Local is most convenient, but only if it is set correctly.  Cork is just two timezones away from me, making the times there just plausible enough to fool me.

> On 29 Jul 2021, at 18:03, Maisonneuve, Julien (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) <julien.maisonneuve@nokia.com> wrote:
> 
> Well, the alternative of being back to the meeting's local timezone is almost certainly worse.
> J.
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> Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2021 4:45 PM
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>> On 29 Jul 2021, at 16:23, Maisonneuve, Julien (Nokia - FR/Paris-Saclay) <julien.maisonneuve@nokia.com> wrote:
>> Thinking out loud : why not make the "local" agenda option the default ?
> 
> Because when you change to local time manually, you see the box where it says your time zone and make sure it’s right.
> When I browse the web at work, I keep getting ads for car dealerships in Cork, because that’s the way the VPNs at my company are set up.  I don’t know where the IETF agenda picks up the local time, but I wouldn’t blindly trust it to be correct.
>