Re: [111attendees] timing

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Wed, 28 July 2021 16:49 UTC

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Subject: Re: [111attendees] timing
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Le 28/07/2021 à 15:41, Carsten Bormann a écrit :
> On 28. Jul 2021, at 15:31, Vittorio Bertola 
> <vittorio.bertola=40open-xchange.com@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>> 
>> unless strong community consensus on a different practice appears.
> 
> s/unless/until/
> 
> Let’s get this going.

There is a difference in opposing noon start times and opposing UTC
references.  I oppose the latter.

Using UTC is a big source of errors: artificial two-step conversion and
and an ambiguity of a third step which is the daylight savings (UTC does
not respect daylight savings, and UTC is the same as London times some
times).

Time should be talked about in terms of geography (cities, oceans, what
have you) but not in absolute terms like 'Unviersal'.  There is no
Universal time however one might turn it.

UTC is an anchor to go to when one does not have where to go to.  But it 
does not really exist.

Alex

> 
> Grüße, Carsten
>

[111attendees] timing Randy Bush
Re: [111attendees] timing Vittorio Bertola
Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
Re: [111attendees] timing Randy Bush
Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
Re: [111attendees] timing Mirja Kuehlewind
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Re: [111attendees] timing Alexandre Petrescu
Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
Re: [111attendees] timing John Levine
Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
Re: [111attendees] timing Chukwuka Odele
Re: [111attendees] timing Luigi IANNONE
Re: [111attendees] timing Chukwuka Odele
Re: [111attendees] timing Carlos M. Martinez
Re: [111attendees] timing Chukwuka Odele
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Re: [111attendees] timing Luigi IANNONE
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Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
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Re: [111attendees] timing Phillip Hallam-Baker
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Re: [111attendees] timing Vasilenko Eduard
Re: [111attendees] timing Göran Selander
Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
Re: [111attendees] timing Tero Kivinen
Re: [111attendees] timing Alexandre Petrescu
Re: [111attendees] timing Alexandre Petrescu
Re: [111attendees] timing Alexandre Petrescu
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Re: [111attendees] timing Diego Dujovne
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Re: [111attendees] timing Alexandre Petrescu
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Re: [111attendees] timing Alexandre Petrescu
Re: [111attendees] timing Robert Moskowitz
Re: [111attendees] timing Roman Shpount
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Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
Re: [111attendees] timing Christian Amsüss
Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
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Re: [111attendees] timing Larry Masinter
Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann