Re: [111attendees] timing
Robert Moskowitz <rgm@labs.htt-consult.com> Thu, 29 July 2021 15:41 UTC
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Subject: Re: [111attendees] timing
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On 7/28/21 8:36 PM, Phillip Hallam-Baker wrote: > The daylight savings time fetish is really quite weird. Claims are > made about the amount of money/ time will be saved that invariably > turn out to be references to other predictions. Michigan is west of the eastern median and really should be in Central time. Actually was at first but the political power in Detroit back then wanted to be in the same timezone as Wallstreet and got Michigan moved eastern to suit them. The west side of the state really suffers. During double daylight experiment, half the upper peninsula was moved to Central time, it was so bad for them. With the talk to make Daylight time permanent there is talk of moving Michigan to Central time where it belongs as being in sync with Wallstreet is no longer so strong. Time zones. The Talmud discusses why they are needed. The Kuzari has a whole section on them. Nothing really 'new' about them. > Oh and solar noon varies by almost a quarter of an hour over the > course of a year where I come from so the chance of me living long > enough for accumulated drift due to lack of leap seconds being > noticable is quite small. Astronomy 101 covers the mid-day sinusoidal oscillation. It is why the earliest sunset is NOT the winter solstice and the latest sunrise is like Jan 3rd. (all important details for setting times for Jewish prayer times) What is that music lyric? "time, oh time. Where have you gone?" :)
- [111attendees] timing Randy Bush
- Re: [111attendees] timing Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
- Re: [111attendees] timing Randy Bush
- Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
- Re: [111attendees] timing Mirja Kuehlewind
- Re: [111attendees] timing Bob Hinden
- Re: [111attendees] timing Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [111attendees] timing John Levine
- Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
- Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
- Re: [111attendees] timing Chukwuka Odele
- Re: [111attendees] timing Luigi IANNONE
- Re: [111attendees] timing Chukwuka Odele
- Re: [111attendees] timing Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: [111attendees] timing Chukwuka Odele
- Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
- Re: [111attendees] timing Luigi IANNONE
- Re: [111attendees] timing Salz, Rich
- Re: [111attendees] timing Mark Andrews
- Re: [111attendees] timing Pedro Martinez-Julia
- Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
- Re: [111attendees] timing Pedro Martinez-Julia
- Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
- Re: [111attendees] timing Nigel Hickson
- Re: [111attendees] timing Pedro Martinez-Julia
- Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
- Re: [111attendees] timing Pedro Martinez-Julia
- Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
- Re: [111attendees] timing Carlos Marcelo Martinez Cagnazzo
- Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
- Re: [111attendees] timing Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [111attendees] timing Bron Gondwana
- Re: [111attendees] timing Göran Selander
- Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
- Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
- Re: [111attendees] timing Vasilenko Eduard
- Re: [111attendees] timing Tero Kivinen
- Re: [111attendees] timing Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [111attendees] timing Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [111attendees] timing Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
- Re: [111attendees] timing Diego Dujovne
- Re: [111attendees] timing Adnan Rashid
- Re: [111attendees] timing Boris Khasanov
- Re: [111attendees] timing Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [111attendees] timing Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [111attendees] timing Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [111attendees] timing Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [111attendees] timing Roman Shpount
- Re: [111attendees] timing Youngkwon Lim
- Re: [111attendees] timing Stewart Bryant
- Re: [111attendees] timing John R. Levine
- Re: [111attendees] timing Lars Eggert
- Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
- Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
- Re: [111attendees] timing Christian Amsüss
- Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
- Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
- Re: [111attendees] timing Larry Masinter
- Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann