Re: [111attendees] [Tools-discuss] Positive observations and proposals for improvements to Meetecho (was: Re: Re: So, what are jabber scribes actually doing, these days?)

در تاریخ دوشنبه ۲ اوت ۲۰۲۱،‏ ۱۵:۴۰ Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
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> On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 at 23:37, Michael Richardson <mcr+ietf@sandelman.ca>
> wrote:
>
> >     > *information about who is speaking in the same place as video
> feeds*
> >
> > The video image does do the yellow square when they are speaking.
> >
> >     > See my previous email :)  Basically the "participant list" should
> just
> >     > be an ordered list of participants and only needs to be switched to
> >     > when seeing who is in the call or opening an individual message to
> them
> >     > (and people don't get moved out of order when they're sending
> >     > something).  The "who is sending something" list should be all
> together
> >     > with the video, and chairs pinned even if they're sending nothing
> right
> >     > now.
> >
> > I think that I need a picture.
>
> So, currently we have the Chairs and any "active" participants (hand
> up, mic and/or camera open, presenting slides or screen) moving
> dynamically to the top of the Participants list on the left.  This
> makes it easy to find the Chairs, but if looking for a particular
> person in the list, you have to check both the top of the list and
> their alphabetical position, since their dynamic status could place
> them either way.  By default the Participants list is also hidden when
> you're reading the chat, and vice versa.  And currently the list of
> video thumbnails on the right is *strictly* those people with a camera
> open, whether or not they have the mic open or are active in some
> other way.
>
> The proposal here is to include *anyone* who would normally be moved
> to the top of the Participants list in the list of video thumbnails,
> and make the Participants list mostly static (only Chairs at the top).
> The thumbnail for people without a camera on would be the profile pic
> if they have one, supplemented by the appropriate participation icons
> (hand, microphone, screen, slides).  This gives a natural place to
> show speaking cues, so you can see at a glance who is actually
> speaking.
>
> > As my meetecho windows are more vertical than horizontal, I'd also like
> to be
> > able to move the video boxes to be under the slides.
>
> This also seems like a valid optimisation of screen real estate.  The
> thumbnail list should lie along the edge of the window that is least
> pressured by the presentation area.
>
>  - Jonathan Morton
>
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