Re: [111attendees] test
Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Fri, 23 July 2021 13:53 UTC
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Subject: Re: [111attendees] test
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Le 23/07/2021 à 15:35, Robert Moskowitz a écrit : > The single line mike could be upgraded with a cam, just like at the > presentation point. this adds cost over, you can't speak in the room > unless you do it from your notebook/tablet/phone (chaos!)... > > Then the queue management is the mike(s) and online hands-raised. > > Or some such. The seats could carry screens representing people. Something like doublerobotics, or iPad on table; these display individual faces of remote participants; they give the presenter a sense of being directly assisted; these two things (doublerobotics and ipad on table) were used at IETF f2f meetings several years before covid, as experimentations, during a Tuesday 12h ISOC-sponsored session at IETF, and during a DHC WG session, at least. During covid, some TV shows and some EU football game matches featured such screens displaying people to support the performers. Some project proposals I participated in tried to make this on a larger scale, but didnt really take off. However I personally think it might work. Alex > > On 7/23/21 9:26 AM, Toerless Eckert wrote: >> I don't think this particular challenge (mixed online/in-person) >> has really been getting enough attention. >> >> I for once think that it will only work well if the in-person >> meeting part would require attendees even when being together in a >> room to use their notebooks for discussions instead of having a >> physical line at a single microphone, so that there is more >> fairness between local and remote, but that was never really >> discussed on manycouches or picked up their documents. Yet i did >> hear it repeatedly as a suggestion from other IEF'er that had to >> atend remotely even before covid. >> >> Cheers Toerless >> >> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 11:23:42AM +0200, Carsten Bormann wrote: >>> On 2021-07-23, at 11:14, Vittorio >>> Bertola<vittorio.bertola=40open-xchange.com@dmarc.ietf.org> >>> wrote: >>>> I'd rather settle for "let the people who can and want meet in >>>> person, as long as there are enough of them to make a meeting >>>> viable”. >>> … and that, of course, means that this localized gathering is >>> then jointly joining the global online meeting, and not the other >>> way around. The tail/dog thing. Once that really works, we can >>> more aggressively fall back to multiple regional hubs, until >>> global traveling gets easier again. >>> >>> Grüße, Carsten >>> >>> -- 111attendees mailing list 111attendees@ietf.org >>> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/111attendees > > -- Standard Robert Moskowitz Owner HTT Consulting C:248-219-2059 > F:248-968-2824 E:rgm@labs.htt-consult.com > > There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who > gets the credit >
- [111attendees] test Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [111attendees] test Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [111attendees] test ANURAG VIJAY AGRAWAL
- Re: [111attendees] test Jared Mauch
- Re: [111attendees] test ANURAG VIJAY AGRAWAL
- Re: [111attendees] test Ujjwal Sharma
- Re: [111attendees] test Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [111attendees] test Henk Birkholz
- Re: [111attendees] test Alexandre Petrescu
- Re: [111attendees] test Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [111attendees] test Carsten Bormann
- Re: [111attendees] test STARK, BARBARA H
- Re: [111attendees] test Toerless Eckert
- Re: [111attendees] test Toerless Eckert
- Re: [111attendees] test Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [111attendees] test Carlos M. Martinez
- Re: [111attendees] test Robert Moskowitz
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- Re: [111attendees] building up interaction credit… Carsten Bormann
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- Re: [111attendees] test Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [111attendees] test Ole Jacobsen
- Re: [111attendees] test Michael StJohns
- Re: [111attendees] test Robert Moskowitz
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- Re: [111attendees] test Charles Eckel (eckelcu)
- Re: [111attendees] test Julia Urbina-Pineda
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- Re: [111attendees] test MORTON JR., AL
- Re: [111attendees] test John C Klensin
- Re: [111attendees] test Sanjeev Gupta
- Re: [111attendees] test Vittorio Bertola
- Re: [111attendees] test Carsten Bormann
- Re: [111attendees] test Randy Bush
- Re: [111attendees] test Toerless Eckert
- Re: [111attendees] test Nigel Hickson
- Re: [111attendees] test Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [111attendees] test Lars Eggert
- Re: [111attendees] [Ext] Re: test Paul Muchene
- Re: [111attendees] [Ext] Re: test Alexandre Petrescu
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- Re: [111attendees] test Toerless Eckert
- Re: [111attendees] [Ext] Re: test Paul Muchene
- Re: [111attendees] test Alexandre Petrescu
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- Re: [111attendees] [Ext] Re: test Henk Birkholz
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- Re: [111attendees] test Carsten Bormann
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- Re: [111attendees] test Behcet Sarikaya
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- [111attendees] Please change the Subject line [wa… Bob Hinden
- Re: [111attendees] test Diego Dujovne
- Re: [111attendees] Please change the Subject line… Jim Reid
- Re: [111attendees] Please change the Subject line… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [111attendees] test Ted Lemon
- Re: [111attendees] multisite remote hybrid meetin… Robert Moskowitz
- Re: [111attendees] The joyful benefits of (hybrid… Henk Birkholz
- Re: [111attendees] multisite remote hybrid meetin… Diego Dujovne
- Re: [111attendees] test of 111attendees list and … Oscar Garcia
- [111attendees] future hybrid meeting discuss (was… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [111attendees] test John C Klensin
- Re: [111attendees] multisite remote hybrid meetin… Diego Dujovne
- Re: [111attendees] Planning for hybrid meetings (… Jay Daley
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- [111attendees] Hybrid meetings (was: Re: test) Lars Eggert
- Re: [111attendees] Hybrid meetings (was: Re: test) John C Klensin
- Re: [111attendees] Hybrid meetings (was: Re: test) Lars Eggert
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- Re: [111attendees] Hybrid meetings (was: Re: test) Jay Daley