Re: [111attendees] test

Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@gmail.com> Fri, 23 July 2021 13:53 UTC

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Le 23/07/2021 à 15:35, Robert Moskowitz a écrit :
> The single line mike could be upgraded with a cam, just like at the 
> presentation point.  this adds cost over, you can't speak in the room
>  unless you do it from your notebook/tablet/phone (chaos!)...
> 
> Then the queue management is the mike(s) and online hands-raised.
> 
> Or some such.

The seats could carry screens representing people.  Something like
doublerobotics, or iPad on table; these display individual faces of
remote participants; they give the presenter a sense of being directly
assisted; these two things (doublerobotics and ipad on table) were used
at IETF f2f meetings several years before covid, as experimentations,
during a Tuesday 12h ISOC-sponsored session at IETF, and during a DHC WG
session, at least.

During covid, some TV shows and some EU football game matches featured
such screens displaying people to support the performers.

Some project proposals I participated in tried to make this on a larger
scale, but didnt really take off.  However I personally think it might work.

Alex

> 
> On 7/23/21 9:26 AM, Toerless Eckert wrote:
>> I don't think this particular challenge (mixed online/in-person) 
>> has really been getting enough attention.
>> 
>> I for once think that it will only work well if the in-person 
>> meeting part would require attendees even when being together in a
>> room to use their notebooks for discussions instead of having a
>> physical line at a single microphone, so that there is more
>> fairness between local and remote, but that was never really
>> discussed on manycouches or picked up their documents. Yet i did
>> hear it repeatedly as a suggestion from other IEF'er that had to
>> atend remotely even before covid.
>> 
>> Cheers Toerless
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 23, 2021 at 11:23:42AM +0200, Carsten Bormann wrote:
>>> On 2021-07-23, at 11:14, Vittorio
>>> Bertola<vittorio.bertola=40open-xchange.com@dmarc.ietf.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I'd rather settle for "let the people who can and want meet in
>>>> person, as long as there are enough of them to make a meeting
>>>> viable”.
>>> … and that, of course, means that this localized gathering is
>>> then jointly joining the global online meeting, and not the other
>>> way around. The tail/dog thing. Once that really works, we can
>>> more aggressively fall back to multiple regional hubs, until
>>> global traveling gets easier again.
>>> 
>>> Grüße, Carsten
>>> 
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> 
> -- Standard Robert Moskowitz Owner HTT Consulting C:248-219-2059 
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> 
> There's no limit to what can be accomplished if it doesn't matter who
>  gets the credit
>