Re: [111attendees] timing

Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi> Thu, 29 July 2021 12:34 UTC

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Date: Thu, 29 Jul 2021 15:33:58 +0300
From: Tero Kivinen <kivinen@iki.fi>
To: Mark Andrews <marka@isc.org>
Cc: Luigi IANNONE <luigi.iannone@huawei.com>, "111attendees@ietf.org" <111attendees@ietf.org>, Carsten Bormann <cabo@tzi.org>, Toerless Eckert <tte@cs.fau.de>
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Subject: Re: [111attendees] timing
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Mark Andrews writes:
> One hard part is actually having the days listed as Monday, Tuesday,
> Wednesday instead of Day 1, Day 2, Day 3.  It is Thursday here but
> we are on Wednesday’s program. Off by 24 hours errors are easy to
> make.  Even setting the calendar to the local time zone doesn’t
> change the titles in the schedule.  You have to look for the (+1) on
> the times. 

Hmmm... Day 1, Day 2 etc would have been one option to solve the
weekday problem. Nobody proposed that when the code was written so it
was never really considered. The agenda is quite hard coded to have
specific days and each meeting is inside one day, and having date
change based on the timezone would have been hard. I.e., showing that
Monday Session I starts on Monday 22:00 local time, but then there
would need to be new date heading between Monday Session I and Monday
Session II when using my local time as Monday Session II actually
starts on Tuesdays 00:30 for me.

So I decided to keep the date structure and headers as they are. Also
as IETF did have / do have some structure during the week (codesprint,
hackathon on Saturday, hackathon, newcomers orinentation, welcoming
reception on Sunday, Plenary on Wednesdays etc) I assumed it would be
easier for people who has participated regular IETF to understand the
agenda in that way.

Note, that when you move mouse over the timeslot fields of the agenda
you get this tooltip which shows you the full starting and ending date
and time of the session in 4 different timezones (meeting, local,
selected, and UTC). And it also tells you that event will be starting
in 7 hours. I did assume that people living on different weekday than
the meeting is, do have issues with the agenda, so I added that
tooltip to make sure they can properly see the date and weekday of the
session without them having to do (+1) or (-1) calculations. I tried
to keep the agenda time fields narrow enough to be usable, so thats
why it just uses the (+1) or (-1) shorthand to remind you the event is
on different day.
-- 
kivinen@iki.fi

[111attendees] timing Randy Bush
Re: [111attendees] timing Vittorio Bertola
Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
Re: [111attendees] timing Randy Bush
Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
Re: [111attendees] timing Mirja Kuehlewind
Re: [111attendees] timing Bob Hinden
Re: [111attendees] timing Alexandre Petrescu
Re: [111attendees] timing John Levine
Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
Re: [111attendees] timing Chukwuka Odele
Re: [111attendees] timing Luigi IANNONE
Re: [111attendees] timing Chukwuka Odele
Re: [111attendees] timing Carlos M. Martinez
Re: [111attendees] timing Chukwuka Odele
Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
Re: [111attendees] timing Luigi IANNONE
Re: [111attendees] timing Salz, Rich
Re: [111attendees] timing Mark Andrews
Re: [111attendees] timing Pedro Martinez-Julia
Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
Re: [111attendees] timing Pedro Martinez-Julia
Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
Re: [111attendees] timing Nigel Hickson
Re: [111attendees] timing Pedro Martinez-Julia
Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
Re: [111attendees] timing Pedro Martinez-Julia
Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
Re: [111attendees] timing Carlos Marcelo Martinez Cagnazzo
Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
Re: [111attendees] timing Phillip Hallam-Baker
Re: [111attendees] timing Bron Gondwana
Re: [111attendees] timing Göran Selander
Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
Re: [111attendees] timing Vasilenko Eduard
Re: [111attendees] timing Tero Kivinen
Re: [111attendees] timing Alexandre Petrescu
Re: [111attendees] timing Alexandre Petrescu
Re: [111attendees] timing Alexandre Petrescu
Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
Re: [111attendees] timing Diego Dujovne
Re: [111attendees] timing Adnan Rashid
Re: [111attendees] timing Boris Khasanov
Re: [111attendees] timing Alexandre Petrescu
Re: [111attendees] timing Robert Moskowitz
Re: [111attendees] timing Alexandre Petrescu
Re: [111attendees] timing Robert Moskowitz
Re: [111attendees] timing Roman Shpount
Re: [111attendees] timing Youngkwon Lim
Re: [111attendees] timing Stewart Bryant
Re: [111attendees] timing John R. Levine
Re: [111attendees] timing Lars Eggert
Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
Re: [111attendees] timing Christian Amsüss
Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann
Re: [111attendees] timing Toerless Eckert
Re: [111attendees] timing Larry Masinter
Re: [111attendees] timing Carsten Bormann