From nobody Wed Nov 3 06:15:49 2021 Return-Path: X-Original-To: 112all@ietfa.amsl.com Delivered-To: 112all@ietfa.amsl.com Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id BF19D3A13A5; Wed, 3 Nov 2021 06:15:39 -0700 (PDT) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at amsl.com X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, HTML_MESSAGE=0.001, URIBL_BLOCKED=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Received: from mail.ietf.org ([4.31.198.44]) by localhost (ietfa.amsl.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id BuC0Ol1UUfJZ; Wed, 3 Nov 2021 06:15:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple (mail.eggert.org [91.190.195.94]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by ietfa.amsl.com (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id B57D23A1247; Wed, 3 Nov 2021 06:15:33 -0700 (PDT) From: IETF Chair Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7FE4AF65-0845-43EE-B29E-9F2286932C6F" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 15.0 \(3693.20.0.1.32\)) Date: Wed, 3 Nov 2021 15:15:30 +0200 References: Cc: 112all@ietf.org, Working Chairs , irtf-announce@ietf.org To: IETF-Announce Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3693.20.0.1.32) Archived-At: Subject: [112all] Reminder: IETF 112 plenary *today* at 13:30-15:00 UTC X-BeenThere: 112all@ietf.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Official communication about IETF 112 <112all.ietf.org> List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 03 Nov 2021 13:15:40 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_7FE4AF65-0845-43EE-B29E-9F2286932C6F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Hi, as a reminder, the IETF 112 plenary is scheduled as en experiment = *today* at 13:30-15:00 UTC, i.e., in about 15 minutes. The Meetecho link is = https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/ietf112/?group=3Dietf&short=3Dplenary&i= tem=3D1 = . See https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda/ = the full IETF 112 agenda. Lars Eggert IETF Chair Begin forwarded message: >=20 > From: IETF Chair > Subject: Experiment: Holding the IETF 112 plenary on Nov 3, 2021 > Date: September 24, 2021 at 10:11:57 GMT+3 > To: IETF-Announce > Cc: wgchairs@ietf.org, 112all@ietf.org, IETF > Reply-To: The IESG >=20 > Hi, >=20 > based on the feedback received on the proposal to move the IETF 112 > plenary to the week before the meeting [1], the IESG has decided to go > ahead with the experiment. We did receive some feedback indicating > that the proposed experiment is problematic in certain ways for some > individuals, but feel that actually running the experiment is still > appropriate, in order to get data about how it affects the overall > community. >=20 > The IETF 112 plenary will hence already be scheduled on Wednesday, 3 > November 2021, in the time slot of 13:30-15:00 UTC, or 14:30-16:00 > Madrid time. At notable extremes, this begins at 06:30 in San = Francisco > and ends at 02:00 in Sydney, with some of the less popular hours over > the Pacific. >=20 > The IESG will evaluate the success of this experiment based on the > following criteria after its conclusion, in consultation with the > community: >=20 > * An improvement in survey responses reporting session conflicts > compared to previous IETF online meetings >=20 > * Positive response to a new survey question about subjective > satisfaction with the format change >=20 > * Elimination of a ninth track, and a reduction in formal conflicts in > the final agenda compared to previous online meetings >=20 > * Little or no reduction in plenary attendance (< 15%) compared to = other > online plenaries in European time zones (i.e., IETFs 108 and 110) >=20 > * The subjective experience of the IESG and Secretariat in attempting = to > minimize conflicts during IETF 112 >=20 > Not all of these metrics must show improvement for the experiment to = be > considered a success, neither does a regression in any of necessarily > indicate failure. The relative weights of these considerations are a > subject for IESG the follow-up discussion and community consultation. >=20 > Lars Eggert > IETF Chair (on behalf of the IESG) >=20 > [1] = https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/z3FZnHmcuxDevC4BkmoY8I= 89yPk/ --Apple-Mail=_7FE4AF65-0845-43EE-B29E-9F2286932C6F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii
Hi,

as a reminder, the IETF 112 plenary is scheduled as en = experiment *today* at 13:30-15:00 UTC, i.e., in about 15 = minutes.

The = Meetecho link is https://meetings.conf.meetecho.com/ietf112/?group=3Dietf&sh= ort=3Dplenary&item=3D1.

See https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/agenda/ the = full IETF 112 agenda.

Lars Eggert
IETF Chair


Begin forwarded = message:

From: = IETF Chair <chair@ietf.org>
Subject: = Experiment: = Holding the IETF 112 plenary on Nov 3, 2021
Date: = September 24, 2021 at 10:11:57 = GMT+3
To: = IETF-Announce <ietf-announce@ietf.org>
Cc: wgchairs@ietf.org, 112all@ietf.org, IETF <ietf@ietf.org>
Reply-To: = The IESG <iesg@ietf.org>

Hi,

based on the feedback = received on the proposal to move the IETF 112
plenary to = the week before the meeting [1], the IESG has decided to go
ahead with the experiment.  We did receive some feedback = indicating
that the proposed experiment is problematic in = certain ways for some
individuals, but feel that actually = running the experiment is still
appropriate, in order to = get data about how it affects the overall
community.

The IETF 112 plenary will hence already be = scheduled on Wednesday, 3
November 2021, in the time slot = of 13:30-15:00 UTC, or 14:30-16:00
Madrid time. At notable = extremes, this begins at 06:30 in San Francisco
and ends = at 02:00 in Sydney, with some of the less popular hours over
the Pacific.

The IESG will = evaluate the success of this experiment based on the
following criteria after its conclusion, in consultation with = the
community:

* An = improvement in survey responses reporting session conflicts
=  compared to previous IETF online meetings

* Positive response to a new survey question about = subjective
 satisfaction with the format change

* Elimination of a ninth track, and a = reduction in formal conflicts in
 the final agenda = compared to previous online meetings

* = Little or no reduction in plenary attendance (< 15%) compared to = other
 online plenaries in European time zones = (i.e., IETFs 108 and 110)

* The subjective = experience of the IESG and Secretariat in attempting to
=  minimize conflicts during IETF 112

Not = all of these metrics must show improvement for the experiment to be
considered a success, neither does a regression in any of = necessarily
indicate failure. The relative weights of = these considerations are a
subject for IESG the follow-up = discussion and community consultation.

Lars = Eggert
IETF Chair (on behalf of the IESG)

[1] https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-announce/z3FZnHmcuxD= evC4BkmoY8I89yPk/

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