Re: [112attendees] Plenary last week -

["Joel M. Halpern" <[e-mail]>]

I find your phrasing misleading.
No one can offer a guarantee of non-spread.  Ever.  We do not guarantee 
you will not catch the flu at an IETF meeting.  Or any other 
communicable disease.
Even when (I hope it is a "when") this pandemic has finally faded to low 
levels, there will be no guarantees.


Yours,
Joel

On 11/10/2021 9:26 AM, Alexandre PETRESCU wrote:
> Le 10/11/2021 à 13:56, Andrew Campling a écrit :
>> On 10. 11. 21 12:45, Petr Špacek wrote:
>>
>>> As a second data point (obviously anecdotal): I'm heads-down in DNS
>>> stuff and don't follow internal IETF policies or shmoo discussions,
>>> and still I had no problem finding out about Plenary being a week
>>> earlier. In fact I remember seeing the information at least three
>>> times - despite me ignoring plenary on purpose:
>>
>> I also saw multiple notifications of the change in the scheduling of
>> the plenary plus explanations of the reasons behind the experiment.
>> It seemed pretty well publicised to me and in good time to allow for
>> diary adjustments etc, noting that attendance would not be possible
>> for everyone and that (I hope) the post-meeting review will reflect
>> on the pros and cons of the approach.
>>
>> Separately, I trust that the plenary will take place during the week
>> of the main meeting in IETF 113, assuming that there is an in-person
>> element for this meeting.
> 
> I think that, unless the organizers consider offering guarantees of 
> non-spread, there could be an important point to make that we want first 
> and foremost to not spread and hence not to meet.
> 
> Of course, we could also want to meet even if we help the spread, but in 
> an advantageous ratio.
> 
> We might also think that it is those who invite that must make sure 
> there is no spread, or we might think that it is the responsibility of 
> those who come to ensure that.
> 
> (this 'no spread' aspect comes to my mind personally after having some 
> ups and downs between optimism and pesimism about vaccines, treatments, 
> tests, mechanical, biological, electronic solutions)
> 
> Alex
> 
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>>
>> Andrew
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