Re: [112attendees] Plenary last week - missed

[Alexandre PETRESCU <[e-mail]>]

To me, this organisation of 2-week and Plenary in the first week was not 
a problem of finding the time to attend - I could.

When I registered I even noted the previous week as being the IETF 
week.  I prepared the Monday before in order to attend, and got ready 
with microphone and headset.  Then I realized it was the hackathon, not 
the WGs.  I thought I made a mistake and that the IETF week was this_ 
week - all WGs are now.  When, in fact, the IETF is on 2 weeks now: both 
weeks were valid.

Before, I was very much used to one-week IETFs.  I knew that usually 
some hackathon or early meetings happen the week before, or even before 
that. But from that to put the Plenary a week before is a large change 
in what IETF meeting meant to me.  The change was too sudden.

I am not sure why they made the change so sudden.  Maybe to shake up 
some people like me and tell there is something new about IETF, or 
something like that.

And me who thought not be surprised and dreamt about making plans of 
work of planning various kinds of online meetings or hybrid meetings... 
in shmoo WG!  It's not in shmoo WG that these things happen, even though 
they do things about online meetings.

To end my rant about this: it is destabilizing.

Alex

Le 09/11/2021 à 23:06, Robert Moskowitz a écrit :

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Alexandre Petrescu
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> I am one of those that remember Megan with her country kitchen 
> triangle on Monday morning trying to get all of us out of the 
> breakfast area and into the opening plenary....
>
> Of course then many mornings started off with something or other other 
> than a work session.  Or so my old memory tries and tells me.
>
> IEEE 802 tends to start off with an opening plenary to "set the stage" 
> and then a mid-week to look at what was done etc.
>
> Spanning two weeks can be a problem.  Fortunately, my time was rather 
> open and could just miss the ASTM weekly Thursday UAS Remote ID 
> session, as I will this week.  At least I will make the Friday 
> afternoon meeting.  We REALLY need to finish up the current version so 
> we can start in delayed items on the next version...
>
> Meetecho and Jabber work pretty well for me.  Gather this time around 
> is really a problem.  The HotRFC was a bust:  too many people packed 
> together and Gather just could not figure out who to connect to.  
> Forget about the problems with the videos, Gather itself busted.
>
> 7am ET just does not work for me; I am out from 6 - ~8am 6 mornings a 
> week.  Being F2F, I handle this differently, but at home I don't.  
> Just my schedule issue.  Thanks CFRG chairs for putting my slot for 
> when I get back in.
>
> I kind of like the asia timeslot.  I basically worked 3rd shift! Quite 
> strange.
>
> Enough rambling.  Got home things to do this evening.
>
> Take care all.  Hope to be "seeing" you around in this virtual setup 
> and soonish in person.  Like before I retire (negotiating a contract 
> for another year. Yea!)?
>
> Bob
>
> On 11/9/21 12:43 PM, Alexandre Petrescu wrote:
>>
>> I missed the Plenary last week, because I didnt expect it there.
>>
>> This time IETF meeting is so strange.  It spans two weeks time with 
>> importnat things in the first week, including the Plenary, but the WG 
>> meetings are in the second week.
>>
>> All these discussions we had in shmoo WG about online or not online 
>> and I did not see any sign about Plenary being in the first week.
>>
>> All these discussions about which 3-4 time slots are best around the 
>> world, which UTC ways to refer to them, etc, and I missed the Plenary.
>>
>> Sigh...
>>
>> Alex
>>
>>
>>
>