Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID management for IETF 115 London
Ted Lemon <mellon@fugue.com> Tue, 16 August 2022 20:25 UTC
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Subject: Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID management for IETF 115 London
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Why is popularity not the right metric? I think it is the right metric, but only if there's a way to eliminate responses from people who wouldn't actually attend IETF anyway. I don't know that that's particularly doable, so this is always going to come down to a judgment call. On Tue, Aug 16, 2022 at 4:13 PM Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de> wrote: > > > > On Aug 16, 2022, at 17:44, Salz, Rich <rsalz=40akamai.com@dmarc.ietf.org> > wrote: > > > > > I was pointing out that if we are /not/ doing online-only, then > necessarily we have accepted as true the conjecture that meeting in person > adds significant value. And that being the case, the metric for what policy > to have for in-person meetings should not be "how many people will be > infected with this policy" but rather "how many people will come with this > policy." > > Wouldn't that turn a health policy/safety question into a popularity > contest/convenience question? Since most IETF members seem not to be > health/life-science experts I am with all respect not sure how useful this > approach (popularity decision) would be. > (For what it is worth, the more stringent masking policy proposed seems > sane to me, as is requiring up-to-date vaccination.) > > > Regards > > > > > > I fully agree. > > > > (It’d be nice if people trimmed duplicate signatures :) > > -- > > 114attendees mailing list > > 114attendees@ietf.org > > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/114attendees > > -- > 114attendees mailing list > 114attendees@ietf.org > https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/114attendees >
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… ProSapien Sam Smith
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Personal Sam Smith
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Ross Finlayson
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Yaron Sheffer
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Eric Orth
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Dean Bogdanovic
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Sorin Faibish
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Tony Li
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Marc Petit-Huguenin
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Mike Bishop
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Randy Bush
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Smith, Andy
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Les Ginsberg (ginsberg)
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Christian Huitema
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Samuel Weiler
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Wes Hardaker
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Jordi Palet Martínez
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Toerless Eckert
- Re: [114attendees] [**EXTERNAL**] Re: [114all] Co… Shah, Himanshu
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… John Levine
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Phillip Hallam-Baker
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Jari Arkko
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Margaret Cullen
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Joel Halpern
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Ted Lemon
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Joel Halpern
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Jordi Palet Martínez
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Blumenthal, Uri - 0553 - MITLL
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… John Levine
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Behcet Sarikaya
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Marco Davids (SIDN)
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Ted Lemon
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Marco Davids
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Salz, Rich
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Personal Sam Smith
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Jeff Haas
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Personal Sam Smith
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Jeff Haas
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Sebastian Moeller
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Ted Lemon
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Personal Sam Smith
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Jeff Haas
- Re: [114attendees] [114all] Consultation on COVID… Personal Sam Smith