Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS (was: [16NG] FW: Review on v6ops 802.16 deployment scenario (J Kim of AT&TLabs))
Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@motorola.com> Thu, 11 January 2007 17:23 UTC
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Subject: Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS (was: [16NG] FW: Review on v6ops
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Hi, sorry for following-up on my own email... Alexandru Petrescu wrote: > gabriel montenegro wrote: >> GARP/GMRP is not widely deployed, and seems to be obsoleted at the >> IEEE already. > > Thanks for clarification. Maybe IEEE proposes something else > instead, in order to have link-layer multicast? > >> RFC 4541 (MLD snooping) is the deployed solution, as Max already >> discussed in the November meeting: >> >> http://www3.ietf.org/proceedings/06nov/slides/16ng-4/sld7.htm Absent GARP/GMRP I think a thing to write in the future version of IPv6-over-ETHCS draft with respect to multicast is about the multicast features of the 802.16 MAC and ETHCS? More than the current section 4.3 saying just that 802.16 MAC dl is mc while ul is not mc (download/upload/multicast). It's clear that IPv6 ND needs a link-layer that is multicast capable, and in both directions. 802.16 MAC seems to be mc-capable (CID for multiple links, MCA-REQ/RSP, etc). However, it's not clear to me from IEEE spec whether (1) both directions are mc capable and (2) the ETHCS (_over_ 802.16MAC) offers a multicast capable link interface to IP. Ie the questions are: (1) will a multicasted NS sent by SS get delivered to that mc group? or just the RA sent by BS? (is 802.16 MAC mc-capable in both directions)? and (2) will an IPv6 RA sent to all-nodes IP and all-nodes MAC address get delivered as such, when it's put on ETHCS (not on 802.16MAC SAP)? (will the ETHCS classifiers understand MAC multicast dst addresses.) If ETHCS is link-layer multicast capable then it is enough to say in the document that ETHCS is link-layer multicast capable, with an example. If ETHCS is not link-layer multicast capable, bidirectionally, I think the draft should say that ETHCS should be link-layer multicast capable, bidirectionally, otherwise IPv6 doesn't work on it. I don't think the draft should develop a technique to make ETHCS link-layer multicast capable, bidirectionally. If there is agreement or incentive I can provide text as I suggested above. Alex _______________________________________________ 16NG mailing list 16NG@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/16ng
- Re: [16NG] FW: Review on v6ops 802.16 deployment … gabriel montenegro
- Re: [16NG] FW: Review on v6ops 802.16 deployment … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS (was: [16NG] FW… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS (was: [16NG] FW… Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Pars Mutaf
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Ray Bell
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Steve Jackowski
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Jihoon Lee
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Qiang Zhang
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Daniel Park
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Daniel Park
- RE: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS David Johnston
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS David Johnston
- RE: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Riegel, Maximilian
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Riegel, Maximilian
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Riegel, Maximilian
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Basavaraj Patil
- Re: more on ppp clarification ... [16NG] Re: mult… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Basavaraj Patil
- Re: ppp - I'll stop discussing (was: [16NG] Re: m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Qiang Zhang
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation (was: and … Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation (was: … Riegel, Maximilian
- Re: [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation (was: … Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation (was: and … Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation Alexandru Petrescu
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation and two qu… Alexandru Petrescu
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation and two qu… Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] RE: stepped multicast operation and two qu… David Johnston
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation and two qu… Alexandru Petrescu