Re: [16NG] DAD in IEEE802.16
"Syam Madanapalli" <smadanapalli@gmail.com> Wed, 02 May 2007 17:22 UTC
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Date: Wed, 2 May 2007 22:52:05 +0530
From: "Syam Madanapalli" <smadanapalli@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [16NG] DAD in IEEE802.16
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Hi Frank and Sangeon, How about using Optimistic DAD (RFC 4429) to minimize the delay? Thanks, Syam On 5/2/07, Frank Xia <xiayangsong@huawei.com> wrote: > > Hi Deniel and Sangeon > > A solution is proposed in the END draft and it applies to p2p link model > as well. > > http://tools.ietf.org/wg/16ng/draft-xia-16ng-end-01.txt > > Comments are welcomed. > > BR > Frank > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Daniel Park <soohong.park@samsung.com> > *To:* '김상언' <kim.sangeon@gmail.com> ; 16ng@ietf.org > *Sent:* Tuesday, May 01, 2007 6:39 PM > *Subject:* [16NG] DAD in IEEE802.16 > > > [Trimming the list and subject] > > Sangeon, > > IPv6 subnet model document was gone. Its status > is in RFC Queue. If you have any concern regarding > IPv6 DAD, it may take place in IPv6CS or EthernetCS > document in my sense. Can you elaborate on your > concern more specific ? > > -- Daniel Park > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* 김상언 [mailto:kim.sangeon@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, April 30, 2007 11:14 PM > *To:* 16ng@ietf.org > *Cc:* iab@iab.org; 16ng-chairs@tools.ietf.org > *Subject:* Re: 16NG Digest, Vol 5, Issue 22 > > > Hi all, > > The one of the important thing in IEEE802.16 is missed. > RFC 2462 specifies autoconfiguration in wired-based IPv6 Internet. It did > not specify configuration time. > To use RFC 2462 specfication in IEEE802.16e network, it is > required faster procedure than current DAD procedure. > Has anyone can tell the DAD processing time? > > If the IEEE 802.16 network will consume more than one seconds to handover > at IP layer, Does it practical? > > So, I would like to propose to add some technical resolution for section > 3.1.3 and 3.3.3. > > regards, > > > 2007/4/28, 16ng-request@ietf.org <16ng-request@ietf.org>rg>: > > > > Send 16NG mailing list submissions to > > 16ng@ietf.org > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/16ng > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > 16ng-request@ietf.org > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > 16ng-owner@ietf.org > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of 16NG digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Document Action: 'Analysis of IPv6 Link Models for 802.16 > > based Networks' to Informational RFC (The IESG) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Fri, 27 Apr 2007 11:30:34 -0400 > > From: The IESG <iesg-secretary@ietf.org > > > Subject: [16NG] Document Action: 'Analysis of IPv6 Link Models for > > 802.16 based Networks' to Informational RFC > > To: IETF-Announce <ietf-announce@ietf.org > > > Cc: Internet Architecture Board <iab@iab.org>rg>, 16ng mailing list > > <16ng@ietf.org>rg>, 16ng chair < 16ng-chairs@tools.ietf.org>gt;, > > RFC Editor > > <rfc-editor@rfc-editor.org> > > Message-ID: < E1HhSP4-00025w-LX@stiedprstage1.ietf.org> > > > > The IESG has approved the following document: > > > > - 'Analysis of IPv6 Link Models for 802.16 based Networks ' > > <draft-ietf-16ng-ipv6-link-model-analysis-03.txt > as an Informational > > RFC > > > > This document is the product of the IP over IEEE 802.16 Networks Working > > Group. > > > > The IESG contact persons are Jari Arkko and Mark Townsley. > > > > A URL of this Internet-Draft is: > > > > http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-16ng-ipv6-link-model-analysis-03.txt > > > > Technical Summary > > > > This document provides different IPv6 link models that are suitable > > for 802.16 based networks and provides analysis of various > > considerations for each link model and the applicability of each link > > model under different deployment scenarios. > > > > Working Group Summary > > > > This document is result of a Design Team that was formed > > to analyze the IPv6 link models for 802.16 based networks. > > Based on the recommendations of the design team and this > > document, the working group has chosen the unique-prefix-per- > > link/mn model over the previously assumed shared prefix > > model. The new model is in use in the IPv6 over 802.16 IPCS > > document (draft-ietf-16ng-ipv6-over-ipv6cs), and has also > > been adopted by the Wimax Forum. > > > > Protocol Quality > > > > Jari Arkko has revied this document for the IESG. > > > > Note to RFC Editor > > > > Please insert "IEEE" in front of references to 802.16 > > or other IEEE specification numbers throughout the > > document, including the title. > > > > Please expand "MS" to "MS (Mobile Station)" on first > > occurence in Section 1. Similarly, expand "BS" to > > "BS (Base Station)". And later in the document, > > "CS" to "CS (Convergence Sublayer)". > > > > Please expand "MLD" to "MLD (Multicast Listener > > Discovery)" in Section 3.1.3. > > > > Please add the following informative reference: > > > > [WiMAXArch] > > "WiMAX End-to-End Network Systems Architecture > > http://www.wimaxforum.org/technology/documents"quot;, > > August 2006. > > > > and refer to that from Section 1, 2nd paragraph, 1st sentence. > > > > In Section 3.1, change "on per MS basis" to "on a per MS basis". > > > > Also in Section 3.1, paragraph 1: change "does not any multicast" > > to "does not provide any multicast". And change "illustrates high" > > to "illustrate a". Finally, change "one more" to "one or more". > > > > Change the section titles (3 instances) that say "Reuse of > > Existing Standards" to "Reuse of Existing Specifications". > > > > Replace the text in the Security Considerations section > > with the following: > > > > This document provides the analysis of various IPv6 link models for > > IEEE 802.16 based networks and this document as such does not > > introduce any new security threats. No matter what the link model > > is, the networks employ the same link-layer security mechanisms > > defined in [5]. However, the chosen link model affects the scope > > of link local communication, and this may have security implications > > for protocols that are designed to work within the link scope. This > > is the concern for shared link model compared other models wherein > > private resources e.g. personal printer cannot be put onto a public > > WiMAX network. This may restrict the usage of shared prefix model > > to enterprise environments. > > > > The Neighbor Discovery related security issues are document in [RFC > > > > 2461] [RFC 2462] and these are applicable for all the models > > described in this documents. The model specific security > > considerations are documented in their respective protocol > > specifications. > > > > Place a new top-level section between Sections 5 and 6: > > > > X. Effect on Routing > > > > The model used for in a 802.16 network may have a significant > > impact on how routing protocols are run over such a network. > > The deployment model presented in this document discusses the > > least impacting model on routing as connectivity on the provider > > edge is intentionally limited to point to point connectivity > > from one BS to any one of multiple MSs. Any other deployment > > model may cause a significant impact on routing protocols, > > however, but they are outside the scope of this document. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > _______________________________________________ > > 16NG mailing list > > 16NG@ietf.org > > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/16ng > > > > > > End of 16NG Digest, Vol 5, Issue 22 > > *********************************** > > > > > > -- > ------------------------------------------------ > Sang-Eon Kim > Senior Researcher > Infra. Lab., KT > 139-791, Woomyeon-dong, Seocho-gu, Seoul, Korea > > Voice: +82-2-526-6117 > Mobile: +82-10-3073-4084 > E-mail: Kim.SangEon@gmail.com > ------------------------------------------------ > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > 16NG mailing list > 16NG@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/16ng > > > _______________________________________________ > 16NG mailing list > 16NG@ietf.org > https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/16ng > >
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- [16NG] Re: 16NG Digest, Vol 5, Issue 22 김상언
- [16NG] DAD in IEEE802.16 Daniel Park
- Re: [16NG] DAD in IEEE802.16 Frank Xia
- Re: [16NG] DAD in IEEE802.16 Syam Madanapalli
- Re: [16NG] DAD in IEEE802.16 Frank Xia
- Re: [16NG] DAD in IEEE802.16 Syam Madanapalli
- Re: [16NG] DAD in IEEE802.16 Frank Xia