Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS
Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@motorola.com> Fri, 12 January 2007 16:51 UTC
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Subject: Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS
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Hi Pars, I would like so see others' oppinions on this too. Pars Mutaf wrote: > Hi, sorry for popping up, > > On Fri, 2007-01-12 at 12:19 +0100, Alexandru Petrescu wrote: >> Hi Jihoon, thanks for reply, >> >> Jihoon Lee wrote: >>> Hi Alex, >>> >>> Let me jump into discussion. 1) 802.16/16e MAC has no capability >>> to do uplink multicast. In DL, 802.16 provides multicast CIDs >>> which is initiated by DSA messages. In UL, however, there is no >>> way for an MS to access others' UL data fundamentally, in 802.16 >>> PHY/MAC. > > Do you think this is an accidental design choice (i.e. no uplink > multicast)? Or 802.16/16e MAC designers had very good fundamental > reasons? I'm not a link-layer designer. I think the choice for 802.16MAC to design multicast only downlink (not ul) is inline with the widespread usage of mobile terminals: clients download stuff, rarely upload. Multi-party video calls (not even IP) need however multicast to run bothways ok to gain in efficiency. And there are link-layers (802.11) that offer a multicast appearence to the IP stack, bothways, despite the lower layer packet being sent through the AP always. This should happen over 802.16MAC ETHCS too, otherwise ND won't work. Alex _______________________________________________ 16NG mailing list 16NG@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/16ng
- Re: [16NG] FW: Review on v6ops 802.16 deployment … gabriel montenegro
- Re: [16NG] FW: Review on v6ops 802.16 deployment … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS (was: [16NG] FW… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS (was: [16NG] FW… Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Pars Mutaf
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Ray Bell
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Steve Jackowski
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Jihoon Lee
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Qiang Zhang
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Daniel Park
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Daniel Park
- RE: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS David Johnston
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS David Johnston
- RE: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Riegel, Maximilian
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Riegel, Maximilian
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Riegel, Maximilian
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Basavaraj Patil
- Re: more on ppp clarification ... [16NG] Re: mult… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Basavaraj Patil
- Re: ppp - I'll stop discussing (was: [16NG] Re: m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Qiang Zhang
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation (was: and … Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation (was: … Riegel, Maximilian
- Re: [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation (was: … Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation (was: and … Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation Alexandru Petrescu
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation and two qu… Alexandru Petrescu
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation and two qu… Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] RE: stepped multicast operation and two qu… David Johnston
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation and two qu… Alexandru Petrescu