Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS
Alexandru Petrescu <alexandru.petrescu@motorola.com> Wed, 17 January 2007 09:54 UTC
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Subject: Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS
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Hi Max, Let me try to understand this. You suggest that it is the aim of the draft to specify the link layer behaviour when forwarding IPv6 multicast messages. I suggest that no link-layer behaviour should be specified, but the interface. (a distinction akin to OO programming, but may not be that obvious). I think we may be saying the same thing but with different words. So, in order to clarify whether we agree or not: do you agree with the multicast text I've sent, see below? Do you think that text has its place in the draft? Thanks, Alex Riegel, Maximilian wrote: > Hi Alex, > > I do not agree with your proposal. It is the aim of the draft to > specify the particular behavior of the link layer when forwarding > IPv6 multicast messages. > > The IPv6 solution does not relay on the multicast implementation in > the ETH link layer, but specifies what should be provided in the ETH > link layer to more efficiently handle IPv6 multicast messages over > IEEE802.16. > > Bye Max [snipping the rest of thread and inserting the multicast for IPv6 on ETHCS proposal text] > Running IPv6 over an Ethernet link needs the support of link-layer > multicast. In the 802.16 context, the Ethernet Convergence Sublayer > (also known as the IEEE Std 802.3/Ethernet-specific part of the IEEE > 802.16 Packet Convergence Sublayer) must (1) support multicast > link-layer addresses (2) map IPv6 multicast addresses to link-layer > addresses and vice-versa, (3) offer the capability of joining and > leaving IPv6 link-local multicast groups and (4) send and receive > IPv6 link-local multicast packets whose link-layer headers contain > link-layer multicast addresses. > > The following link-layer multicast addresses are recommended by > RFCXXXX: 33:33:0:0:0:1, 2, 33:33:ff:XX:XX:XX, and others [fill]. > > The rules for mapping IPv6 link-local multicast addresses to > link-layer multicast addresses are recommended by RFCxxxx and are the > following: - ff02::1 maps into 33:33:00:00:00:1 - and the others. > > > The IPv6 stack must join a certain link-local IPv6 multicast group > before receiving packets addressed to that group. For example, before > receiving a Router Advertisement the stack MUST join the IPv6 > link-local multicast address 'all-nodes'. When the IPv6 stack on the > Subscriber Station joins a certain IPv6 link-local multicast group > it MUST receive all packets addressed to that group. The join > operation can happen in several ways: sending a MLD REPORT (RFCxxx), > setting a local filtering rule, etc. > > The IPv6 stack must be able to leave a certain IPv6 link-local > multicast group. When the IPv6 stack leaves a group must no longer > receive the IPv6 packets addressed to that group. Similarly to the > joining operation the leaving operation can happen in several ways: > sending a MLD REPORT, setting a local filtering rule, etc. > > The following Neighbour Discovery messages are sent by a Subscriber > Station to IPv6 link-local multicast addresses: Neighbour > Advertisement, Neighbour Solicitation, Router Solicitation (RFCxxxx). > The following Neighbour Discovery messages are received by a > Subscriber Station, addressed to IPv6 link-local multicast addresses: > Router Advertisement, Neighbour Advertisement, Neighbour > Solicitation. _______________________________________________ 16NG mailing list 16NG@ietf.org https://www1.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/16ng
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- Re: [16NG] FW: Review on v6ops 802.16 deployment … Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS (was: [16NG] FW… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS (was: [16NG] FW… Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Pars Mutaf
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Ray Bell
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Steve Jackowski
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Jihoon Lee
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Qiang Zhang
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Daniel Park
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Daniel Park
- RE: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS David Johnston
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS David Johnston
- RE: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Riegel, Maximilian
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Riegel, Maximilian
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Riegel, Maximilian
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Basavaraj Patil
- Re: more on ppp clarification ... [16NG] Re: mult… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Basavaraj Patil
- Re: ppp - I'll stop discussing (was: [16NG] Re: m… Alexandru Petrescu
- Re: [16NG] Re: multicast and IPv6 over ETHCS Qiang Zhang
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation (was: and … Alexandru Petrescu
- RE: [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation (was: … Riegel, Maximilian
- Re: [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation (was: … Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation (was: and … Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation Alexandru Petrescu
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation and two qu… Alexandru Petrescu
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation and two qu… Jihoon Lee
- [16NG] RE: stepped multicast operation and two qu… David Johnston
- [16NG] Re: stepped multicast operation and two qu… Alexandru Petrescu